Dr. Conrad Murray will be arrested this afternoon for the murder of Michael Jackson on June 25. The charge, sources say, will be involuntary manslaughter.
And then the fun begins.
We can expect that within hours of the arrest a civil suit will be filed against Dr. Murray by Michael Jackson’s family. This should kick off internal squabbles among the avaricious Jacksons like never before.
There will be questions about how much to sue for, and who would be the plaintiffs. Katherine Jackson, Michael’s mother, is already receiving money from Michael’s estate. But his father, Joseph, is trying to pry $20,000 a month out of the estate now for an allowance. This is the same man who three days after Michael died brought a Michael impersonator with him to the BET Awards and announced a new record label. Joseph Jackson will almost definitely go after Dr. Murray for money.
An even more important question: Which lawyer will be used? Self-appointed Jackson family spokesman and publicity hound Brian Oxman is all over TV blabbing about the criminal charges.
But the Jacksons had better be careful. Oxman was disciplined last December by the California Supreme Court in another case. He was put on probation for two years.
This isn’t the first time he’s been disciplined. In the ’90s, his license was suspended. The Jacksons also don’t seem to realize that Oxman was aligned with another law firm whom Jackson hired and didn’t pay. They sued Michael before he died.
Oxman was also fired by Michael’s defense attorney Tom Mesereau during Jackson’s child molestation trial in 2005 for a variety of infractions, including falling asleep in court.
In all likelihood the civil suit will come through the attorney currently working for Katherine Jackson on the estate. And in the end it will concern how much Dr. Murray is worth, and what he could be worth if anyone ever hired him again. That may not be much.
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:37 am
I just feel sad and tired. It’s all a tragedy.
For Murray, money will be in writing a book. He spent six weeks with Jackson before he died, including having dinners with him and the children, and people would probably like to read about that. Even though many of course would boycott such a book, enough would probably buy. And then, ironically, the proceeds would go back to the estate.
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:41 am
This sounds more like your personal wet dream than your ability to eye the future. We ALL know Murray is broke courtesy of his forclosed on home in Vegas and being taken to court numerous times for child-support. So you know when the Jacksons sue it will not be about money they can get from him but rather any potential monies they can keep him from earning as a result of this tragedy (re: OJ & the Goldmans) But of course, you will spin it the way you have above because it’s so much more entertaining when the Jacksons read like Lazy, Shiftless negros as opposed to a family that has suffered a tragic loss and is pursuing justice in every avenue provided by our legal system. I hope they do sue and are awarded ridiculous damages so if he ever tries to write a book or sell rights to “his” side of the story, he sees no profit.
February 3rd, 2010 at 11:01 am
Murray has no money & it’s likely he won’t ever have any.
Exactly who would be stupid enough to hire this clown as their doctor?
Any lawsuits by the Jackson family will be solely for the publicity & nothing else.
February 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 am
I have been waiting for an arrest to take place for many months now.This isn’t the first time that “sources” have said that charges or an arrest are imminent.I will have to wait and see this happen for myself.
Murray should also lose his medical license;that he has been allowed to practice while the investigation is taking place is jarring.
The Jacksons are a large clan of differing interests;the focus should be on Michael and what happened to hi.The Jacksons really need to surround themselves with people of sound minds,stellar reputations.Brian Oxman should be let go;he isn’t helping the family and it looks like he’s making things worse.
February 3rd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
I agree with you CloBird. The very first course of action is to get rid of Brian Oxman, once and for all. Everybody basically knows what a joke this guy is. Joe Jackson can have him, but the rest of the family needs to make it clear that Brian Oxman does not speak for them.
Once this whole thing get’s under way, Oxman will take over the airwaves and promote himself as a spokesperson for the entire family.
The family really needs to come together of give this guy the boot!
February 3rd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Murray just had a judgement filed against him by a Vegas judge cos he failed to appear in court as he’s in LA. The judgement was about $130k so he’s screwed now financially anyway.
February 3rd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Joe gonna write a book, sell MJ’s medical records, and ease on down to the bank, ya’ll.
February 3rd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
I’m still gobsmacked by how utterly incompetent this man was as a doctor for Michael Jackson, doing absolutely everything wrong in administering the propofol and then in trying to revive his patient. I am not a doctor, but if I had been unscrupulous enough to give anyone that drug, I would have found out first how to do it, gotten another person as a backup monitoring the patient, and learned in theory how to reverse a breathing arrest. Even as a complete amateur, I would have done better than Dr Murray.
February 3rd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
And I’ll go a little further to your post axon.
When your patient appears to be in distress, the very first thing you do is CALL 911!
There was a little 5 year-old boy (he might have been younger) on the news the other day, he couldn’t wake up his grandmother and he called 911. His mother stated that she had just taught him about calling 911 and he apparently remembered everything she taught him at such a tender age.
And don’t let me get started with doing CPR on a bed instead of the floor!
February 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
michael jackson whas dieing,he now that around Juli/September 2008 ,he dint wont the world to know,he whas,dieing from illness LUPIS.Murray dint kill him,michael whas dieing,it time people start to know the TRU about the live of Michael jackson,I can not stop carrying. It Time people know the tru about the jackson family,and michael jackson broken hart.it Time now!
February 3rd, 2010 at 1:21 pm
They will get this waste of human life…. but as a humble opinion, about the family searching for money, you may be talking about certain part of the family because his children Paris, Prince and Prince Michael II and his mother dont need any more money now, they are safe for life… Roger stop with the hate, plesa clearfy that is a PART of his family who IS really really disgusting and that is why Michael is now dgone forever, but RESPECT, please, the ones who are innocent, respect his children…. they deserve it… they are children. Michael was, how could he survive in that family???? noone cared about him, if you wanna say something bad said that a part of the family is looking for money like those brothers, not the entire family, NOT his children or Katherine, even though she could have helped him…
February 3rd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
bobbi, if Michael Jackson was dying from Lupus, the coroner would have called it a long, LONG time ago.
He would have mentioned it in his initial report, before they did any further testing.
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:27 pm
bobbi, is English not your first language or do you have “special needs”? Just curious…
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Oh crap, I clicked on your link bobbi… nevermind you’re just nuts.
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Any money that Katherine or Joe Jackson receive from any lawsuit will be turned over to the Koreans. Howard Wietzman told CNN last week that the $26K that Katherine receives every month goes directly to the Koreans to cover the $8 Million dollar judgement that she along with Joe and Jermaine have against them.
She fought for $26K for her upkeep and she doesn’t see a dime of it. The estate turns over her monthly allowance to the Koreans. If Joe wins a monthly allowance, it too will go to them. Why does he even bother or is he and Brian Oxman just that stupid to continue to take money from Michael’s children just to turn it over to the Koreans for that stupid concert that Michael knew nothing about is beyond belief.
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Who the hell are the Koreans?
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Sally, do your research and go to CNN and find out who they are.
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:56 pm
As a defendant in a criminal case, Dr. Murray has rights that he does not have as a defendant in a civil case. The Jacksons know he’s broke, but he’s loaded with information. A civil case will compel him to talk.
It doesn’t surprise me that Roger et al are selling the avaricious shiftless Negro meme about the Jackson family. But it is amazing how many are still buying into it. Buy a clue, folks – if you need an American family to despise, there are a lot more worthy candidates ahead of the Jacksons.
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
The Koreans were promised a few years back that Michael would join the family in a reunion concert. This concert never did happen because nobody cleared it with Michael first. Evidentlt, the Jacksons took money in the process and now have to pay it back. Originally, Michael was sued along with the others, but the judge later dropped his name from the list because he had never made such a promise – nor would he ever.
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:44 pm
IMO, The Jackson family have the right to file a civil suit against Murray. If they feel that’s right, then that’s their decision. I can’t bash them for that.But I do think Oxman is bad news and the family should be careful with how they want to pursue this.
I must say though, the constant little remarks (or digs) about the Jackson family as a whole is really getting mundane, Roger. You make them seem terrible (not saying that all of their actions are great – cause that Joe, Jermaine, and LaToya can be something else, indeed – but they aren’t all terrible.
February 3rd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
What I don’t get is that Michael was obviously an addict. If not Dr. Murray, he would have found someone else. And what about his plastic surgeon/sperm donor for prince—shouldn’t he be charged and that Anesthesiologist back in NYC that got him started on the stuff to begin and took on tour with him back in the late 80’s. Oh and let’s not forget all the other enablers and hangerons of Michael’s including but not limited to his the producers of his “this is it” tour, his family who depend on his residual checks and the pharmacies that filled the scripts. all have blood on their hands and should be charged.
February 3rd, 2010 at 6:23 pm
It’s about time. He should have been arrested months ago. I have a feeling he will not be the only one going down on this one. Sadly, as we learned with Anna Nicolem and Elvis, there are plenty of doctors out there that are starstruck and will continue to dole out the drugs.
February 3rd, 2010 at 7:41 pm
For those who say Murray is broke, I have one word. INSURANCE. Malpractice Insurance. This is precisely why all doctors are covered by this.
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 pm
I wonder if a malpractice insurance covers every kind and extent of malpractice. In this case the doctor was extraordinarily clumsy and didn’t follow any of the recommended and necessary rules in connection with administering propofol, from purpose to procedures to revival attempts.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:53 am
Email to Bobbi 2009:
I hope this wil help you all to weak UP!!!. about ho I,am:
am crying because you wouldn’t lie to me, so I believe you and
my heart is torn because I cannot believe that there was absolutely NOBODY
willing to look past their own pocketbook to help your dad, by force if
necessary. And I just cannot stand it. It rips me apart to think
this. I WANT to think that he was so happy making TII and that he had joy
in it not that he was being manipulated and forced into it. I’ve seen TII
twice and cried through both times and if I tell you that I was thankful to
everyone that made it, please do not be angry with me as I was just so
thankful for one last time to see him after so many years, that’s all. And
all my youth was marked by his music and his “personna” and just hearing him
sing brings back such beautiful, carefree times in my mind. This is all I
have of him. But you have much more.
you of all people know your father. You would know if he was an
adept liar and I know that people will lie to get what they want so I
believe all that you say but he was human and being so, had the capacity for
lying. And money is the great corruptor but I think he was also spiritual
and truly wanted to help the world with his wealth. I have no doubt that he
used it to try and get what he wanted as well though. I’m a realist and I
know “The King of Pop” was just a title and that Michael the “man” had sins,
flaws, fears and shortcomings as the rest of us do.
You did not shock me, quite the opposite. I feel closer to you in
all that you’ve told me and I hope I’ve not hurt you with anything that I’ve
said. I will confess to being chilled at the thought of you being killed at
February 4th, 2010 at 3:48 am
“And then the fun begins.” Roger, show some dignity. Stop licking your chops like a caged animal waiting to spring. I swear, Satan himself runs the media. It’s his instrument of terror. The problem is medialoid–defined as the infiltration of tabloid journalism into traditional media sources, including the proliferation of sensationalism, triviality and disregard for privacy, with particular emphasis on news coverage of the sports and entertainment industries. Medialoid thinks they make the rules by which society must live. They think they define what is and is not free speech. They have no morals, no decency and no shame. What we have is not qualified reporters reporting on newsworthy topics but packs of bloodthirsty jackals always on the prowl for their next victim. Ka-ching! Sell more newspapers! Attract more eyeballs! They hide behind the First Amendment while they tear down society by pandering to humankind’s basest instincts. From their presumed position as the final arbiters of what people should think and what they should be thinking about, they smell blood in the water and circle the victim like a bunch of braying hyenas. Ka-ching! I hope you’re all proud of yourselves. Michael Jackson (innocent, by the way)…now Tiger Woods. Tiger isn’t the one who should be ashamed—except before his wife. Medialoid should be ashamed for the disreputable way they behave when a high profile personality stumbles. Ugh. I hate the media. You all make me sick.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:06 am
This was an interesting collection of comments! I, too, didn’t realize that the Jackson’s had accepted an advance from the Koreans and are now paying it back with Michael’s money, thus Michael is paying it back(wouldn’t he love that!) As for Dr. Murray writing a book? About what? where he wandered off to for an hour after sticking an IV in Michael’s arm, how he tried to save his life on many occasions but just couldn’t talk the boy out of it and blahblahblah…fact remains he was hired to give MJ what he wanted, when he wanted it, could have walked away, he could have walked away, some people did. bobbi, I had a difficult time following your train, maybe you should get some sleep!
February 4th, 2010 at 4:11 am
Money and greed has always been in their eyes.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:05 am
If Katherine is paying the Koreans back their money, what does she live from? And it isn’t her depth anyway, is it? She is not part of the music group.
As I said, Michael Jackson’s brothers never stopped bothering him about performing with them. The reality show was probably launched in the hopes he would go on tour with them eventually, or at least turn up in the series. He must have felt like he was surrounded by leeches in his own family (not every member of the family).
Dr Murray: What can he do except write a book?
February 4th, 2010 at 5:09 am
Malpractice insurance only covers so much. Some doctors don’t have to carry anymore than $250,000 (limit) and then make sure their other assets are untouchable. I know this as a fact because my grandson was injured horribly during birth and the insurance company settled for the policy limit of $250,000 (and after the attorney took his fees there was only 1/2 that amount). A jury could have awarded more but collecting it is the BIG stumbling block. We all hear about these huge awards that juries make but the insurance companies only pay the policy limits.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:30 am
You are so right SoCalGal,I agree with you!!
Roger,I watched you on the Joy Behar show last night and for some reason you are still insisting that Princes speech at the Grammys was scripted.I don’t see how you can go on national television and say such things when you have absolutely no proof this is what took place!!!You statements were nothing more than your opinions and not based on FACTS!
As for the Koreans,it was more than likely some deal Joe or Jermaine set up and it fell through.Another good example of why this family filed bankruptcy so many times and why Michael left them out of his will.
I would not be surprised if Dr.Murray don’t write a book some day,he actually had the nerve to film a TV show!I have heard he is hanging on to the tapes to be released after his trial.I hope the family does sue him to keep the show from being seen in the future!Where does he get off thinking he can make money off of Michael’s death like that?He seriously believes he did nothing wrong????????
February 4th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Dr Murray in all likelihood is the reason Michael is gone. Michael had a family; IF they do sue how is that wrong? If it was YOUR father, YOUR brother, YOUR uncle (you get the idea) that lost his life under probably malpractice, MOST of us would sue. Stop trying to paint that in any different way. This is how most families would handle this.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I must agree with this :
SoCalGal Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 3:48 am
“And then the fun begins.” Roger, show some dignity. Stop licking your chops like a caged animal waiting to spring…”
Roger,that was low,tasteless,tactless and unnecessary.It also shows a lack of knowledge.Before you criticize someone,it would do you a great deal of benefit to try to understand her/him,the family history,the background.Painting all of the Jacksons as you did was unwise.You should remember that the family started off as very poor,not au courant in the higher-level social skills,and definitely not in legal matters.They had to fight for everything they achieved.Now they are a family in pain,a family that is dysfunctional,a family that doesn’t know how to react to the things that have happened.Joe Jackson does have some major issues and he would do himself some good by dropping his lawsuit and grieving for his son in private;he just doesn’t know how to act in this unusual situation.And as Prince says,most families would sue in a case where gross medical malpractice kills a loved one.Most doctors guilty of malpractice would not write a book,however.
As to the children’s acceptance speech: has is not occurred to you that they WANTED to honor their father and accept his award?I don;t think these children are easily pushed into doing something they don’t want to do;Michael prepared them well.OF COURSE Prince Jackson wrote the speech and practiced it.Don’t people usually PREPARE themselves to give a speech?Well-prepared people do so.And luckily,Prince memorized his speech because it was reported by another entertainment broadcaster who was near the stage that the teleprompter wasn’t working.Prince Jackson did well,dealing with nerves,a blank teleprompter and delivered his first speech to a both a live and broadcast audience.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:45 am
“Dr. Conrad Murray will be arrested this afternoon”
Uhh, it’s Thursday Roger, and still no arrest.
Stop using the Jacksons as your “source”…
February 4th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
CloBird “You should remember that the family started off as very poor,not au courant in the higher-level social skills,and definitely not in legal matters.They had to fight for everything they achieved.Now they are a family in pain,a family that is dysfunctional,a family that doesn’t know how to react to the things that have happened.”
A bit over the top, don’t you think? Any family with nine children will probably have to watch their finances, but the Jacksons were never destitute. Your characterization of the Jacksons as clueless bumpkins seems based on their portrayal in the media. After all, this is a family that went from working class to immense wealth and world-wide fame in one generation. Show some respect, and don’t believe the hype.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Murray write a book..in MJ words..Heehee!!! Murray won’t be around long enough in prison to write a book once Bubba in cellblock 8 gets a hold of him!! As for Roger he’s a racist fat pig do there’s no saving him either. The family has every right to sue it’s not about the money IMO it’s about the principal of the fact and justice for the kids in the end!
February 4th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Hi MARY MAUDE HENRY and SALLY IN CHICAGO, et al. I hope this information helps answer your questions. – mjuls
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SEGYE TIMES INC. VS JOSEPH and KATHERINE JACKSON; JERMAINE JACKSON; MICHAEL JACKSON; KENNETH CHOI
CASE SUMMARY: In 1990 Segye Times, Inc. of South Korea (“Segye”) filed a lawsuit alleging fraud and theft against Joseph and Katherine Jackson and Jermaine Jackson (“the Jacksons”) over a series of concerts that were to be held in South Korea. The concerts, featuring all of the Jacksons brothers, were contingent on the participation of Michael Jackson. The Jacksons, having represented themselves as agents with the authority to guarantee Michael Jackson’s participation, entered into a contract with the Plaintiff. Segye, with Kenneth Choi as fiduciary, advanced the Jacksons $5.5 million to be held in an escrow account as payment to secure the Michael Jackson’s appearance. According to documents filed the Jacksons took more than $2 million of the advance in the form of cash payments and gifts for themselves; The concerts never materialized.
In 1992 Michael Jackson negotiated an out-of-court settlement and his name was dropped from the lawsuit.
The case went to trial in 1994. Court records indicate that neither Joseph and Katherine Jackson, nor Jermaine Jackson, attended the trial and a judgement against the defendants was recorded. At the time of judgement the court awarded the Plaintiff $2 million in actual damages and another $2 million dollars in punitive damages.
(SEGYE TIMES INC. VS MICHAEL JACKSON)
May 1996: Segye Times Inc. filed a lawsuit against Michael Jackson in Santa Barbara County to take over ownership of the Jackson family home on Havenhurst Avenue in Encino, CA. (Michael – now his Estate – is the legally listed owner.) The suit alleged that ownership of the home had exchanged hands within the Jackson family numerous times in an effort to keep creditors, such as Segye, from collecting debts while Joseph and Katherine continue to live in the residence.
In 1999 Joseph and Katherine Jackson filed bankruptcy protection declaring $24 million in debt. The Segye judgement is one of several judgements against the Joseph and Katherine Jackson listed in their petition.
With accrued interest the amount of the judgement is now approximately $7.9 million.
You may find it interesting to know that the attorney of record who represented Joseph, Katherine, and Jermaine Jackson in this action is Brian Oxman.
SEGYE TIMES INC. VS THE ESTATE OF MICHAEL JACKSON
Simply put, after more than 15 years, Segye Times Inc. has the time and the bankroll to continue trying to collect the monies owed. I don’t foresee any scenario taking place where the Estate will be forced directly to honor the claim based on available information. Segye’s claim against the Estate is a strategic move to force Katherine Jackson and her legal team to the table to negotiate a settlement. It is public knowledge that she is a beneficiary to the Estate and Segye wants it clear they are not going away. Once the estate is settled Katherine’s inheritance will far exceed the judgement amount; however, depending upon the terms of the Michael Jackson Family Trust (which are private) her monies may remain largely protected. Unlike the protections provided by a Trust, the $26,000 monthly stipend Katherine Jackson is temporarily receiving is direct income payable to her and cannot easily be protected from creditors; As such creditors’ with judgements against Katherine Jackson are within their rights to seize those funds. It is quite possible that Segye will not see payment of the judgement-in-full until Katherine Jackson’s death. At that point they will file a creditors’ claim against HER estate.
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA VS CONRAD MURRAY, M.D.
Some salient points to keep in mind about the facts of the upcoming criminal case as they have been reported: (1) Dr. Murray will NOT be charged with the murder of Michael Jackson. (Murder is one form of homicide. Not all homicides are murder. Though many do – even in the media (see the first line of Roger’s column above!) – from a legal standpoint it is incorrect to use the two terms interchangeably.) The difference between a charge of Involuntary Manslaughter and murder is a GIANT one. We do not yet know if the charge(s) contain any lesser included offenses. (2) Involuntary Manslaughter is the common charge brought against a physician when the District Attorney deems criminal charges are warranted. (3) The charge itself stipulates that there was no “malice aforethought.” In layman’s terms the end result (death) was accidental due either to “gross negligence” or to consequences stemming from the commission of a misdemeanor. (4) Under the California Penal Code the maximum prison sentence imposed by Involuntary Manslaughter is two to four years. (5) It is very important you understand that charging Dr. Murray with Involuntary Manslaughter DOES NOT in anyway negate Mr. Jackson’s culpability for his own death. The Prosecution has some choppy waters to navigate in how they present their case provided there is a trial. There is no doubt that Mr. Jackson’s own actions and lifestyle will be the cornerstone of any defense.
CIVIL ACTION AGAINST CONRAD MURRAY, M.D.
Joseph Jackson has no chance of mounting a successful case for Wrongful Death. Legally, he has no leg to stand on. He may file but ultimately the courts will toss the case. Michael Jackson did not provide financial support for his father in his lifetime and he intentionally omitted his father in his Will. While he may have received financial support from Katherine (who received her support from Michael) any support Joseph gained was due to Katherine’s largess.
Frankly, it would be difficult, certainly problematic, but not entirely impossible for Katherine Jackson to pursue a successful case. An alienation of affection claim would pertain primarily to the children, and she cannot claim economic hardship. Technically, she now receives more money from the Estate than she did from Michael when he was alive. If Katherine files a Civil suit she, not the Estate, will be responsible for all costs and legal fees.
If a successful case were to be mounted it would have to come from the Estate on behalf of Michael Jackson’s children and not the Jackson family. I hope they don’t, and unless triggered by revelations stemming from the criminal case, I don’t believe they will. Here’s why: (1) Dr. Murray is not solvent and by all accounts has nothing to lose civilly. VINKLIN is correct, Malpractice insurance is capped. Any Malpractice insurance will be eaten up (if not already) by legal fees in the Criminal trial. They are also correct in their assertion that one of the first lessons doctors learn in medical school is the importance of hiding their assets rendering themselves untouchable. It sucks, but it’s true. Dr. Murray is currently being sued by no less than four different women for back child support payments totaling close to $500,000.00. There is a reason why these women are unable to collect. (2) There is no getting around Michael Jackson’s role in his own death. (That fact alone could easily derail a Civil case.) (3) While I completely understand the reaction of those who wish a civil action in a quest to compel further information, that is a shortsighted and emotional reaction. In comparison to the rigid guidelines imposed in a Criminal proceeding, a Civil case requires only a preponderance of evidence. That works both ways. A Wrongful Death lawsuit in this case is nowhere near a slam dunk, not even close. (Even if Dr. Murray is found guilty in the Criminal trial.) Make no mistake if this goes to Civil court it will be MICHAEL JACKSON AND HIS LIFESTYLE ON TRIAL. The Criminal case will be bad enough in this regard, but take this case involving a figure as polarizing as Michael Jackson into Civil court and it will like free ammo day at the O.K. Corral. I’m not joking, nor being disrespectful; the metaphor fits. If you think the media eviscerated Michael Jackson in life wait and see what civil defense lawyers and the press do to him in death. Michael’s chance for Justice comes from the Criminal case. The Estate knows this. Ultimately the question to be weighed is will pursuing a Civil case against Dr. Murray be in the best interest of the children. The only win would be an out-of-court settlement.
And, Roger, there is nothing fun or funny about any of this.
Be well all. Please excuse any typos. Cheers.
As a matter of record I state I am in no way affiliated with the Estate of Michael Jackson.
**DISCLAIMER: This information is not intended to substitute for professional legal advice and does not create an attorney-client relationship. You should accept legal advice only from a licensed legal professional with whom you have an attorney-client relationship.
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February 5th, 2010 at 1:19 am
Thanks, Mjuls. We really need some clarification is this jungle of legal actions.
What I fail to see is the legal importance of Michael’s lifestyle, that is, that he demanded propofol from Murray himself (which seems likely, since he asked several people for it). He was not a doctor and his only take on the drug was that it had worked before, and hence, should work again. He knew that to stay alive he needed a pro to administer it, and he got the pro. The basic reason for him wanting the drug at all was severe insomnia, a condition that is utterly painful (I know this, I has on 100% sick leave for it myself for many years).
Now, what the doctor should have known was first to say no, and if he didn’t to that, inform himself about the proper way to administer the drug and make feasible plans for constant monitoring (which would take at least one assistant and more equipment) and plans for resuscitation, should that become necessary. He did none of it, which, in combination with him injecting benzos twice or three times before he finally gave the propofol, was what caused Michael’s death.
I can’t see how Michael’s “lifestyle” could be on trial. He was a drug addict on painkillers (since he was in pain with arthritis and inflamed lungs), but that has little to do with Murray’s incompetence.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:21 am
PS. The Estate should get Mesereau again. But first pay him fully for the last time, the 2005 trial.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:32 am
WOW-O=WOW!!! Mjuls your post is FREAKING AWESOME!!!! Thank you so much
February 5th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Simba,apparently you aren’t aware that there are large families born to wealthy clans,so your remark about “Any family with nine children will probably have to watch their finances, but the Jacksons were never destitute. Your characterization of the Jacksons as clueless bumpkins seems based on their portrayal in the media. After all, this is a family that went from working class to immense wealth and world-wide fame in one generation. Show some respect, and don’t believe the hype” is the one that is off-base.
I was stating FACT.It is sad that there are so many people who are unable to have balanced,accurate views on the Jacksons.They are either too pro or anti,unable to see the entire picture. The Jacksons weren’t destitute country-bumpkins,but you need to face it,they aren’t in the same social league as the Astors, the Mellons,people born to wealth.This is a horrid experience for them and they need to chose their legal counsel wisely and get good,solid advice.That is not being disrespectful.You are the one who is being disrespectful.I am over 50 years old,have a background in psychology(graduate school included) and base my opinions on experience gained by studying social/anthropological psychology.You may have troubles accepting some facts,disagree with some opinions,but you certainly have no right to tell me so show some respect. Your words have painted a very clear picture of just the type of person you are–”Speak that I may see thee…”
February 5th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
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February 5th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
CloBird – I used to work on the upper east side of New York City, surrounded by what’s known as “Old Money”. Trust me, just because your last name is Astor or Mellon, or others I could cite, doesn’t mean that your family is socially superior to the Jacksons of Gary, Indiana. All the sophistication and wealth in the world didn’t keep Casey Johnson alive, or Paris Hilton out of a sex tape. Of course, the rich are different from you and I – they have more money.
The horrid experience the Jacksons are going through is the loss of their son, brother, and father. Being born to wealth does not exempt you from death. All the rest is detail.
If you don’t want to show the Jacksons, don’t. It will not make them the least bit of difference.
February 6th, 2010 at 7:56 am
I think the family should be prepared to sue and I see nothing wrong with it. Michael Jackson’s death was ruled a homicide by the coroner. It was unlawful. Whatever happens in the criminal case the family have every right to press civil charges and sideline any attempt by Murray to make money from the tragedy.
Also, I don’t see why you are attacking the family. No one can determine how another person grieves. Some fall to pieces others try to carry on as normal. In an entertainment family I guess “the show must go on” could be an ingrained response. Ridiculing Joe Jackson is so wearing and judgmental. He’s in his eighties, his son has died tragically, he is doing his best which for him means doing what he has always done. Do you expect him to sob for the cameras? Joe Jackson? He is a tough old guy who dragged his family up from nothing and did his best, for better or worse. He was there holding his son’s hand on the way to court when the media attempted to crucify him in 2005. How would you know if he cries at night?
I honestly think that most people have no idea what this family feels and zero knowledge of the sheer magnitude of the legal, business and emotional struggles resulting from Michael’s death. Whatever, how they pursue the case against Murray is their business and their right.
February 9th, 2010 at 3:26 am
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