Debbie Rowe — mother of Michael Jackson’s two eldest children, Prince Michael and Paris – is on her way back to court. The reason? Sources say that in the four months since Michael died, she still has not seen the kids.
I am told that the deal Rowe worked out with Katherine Jackson after Michael died provided for visits with the kids and a family court psychiatrist. Rowe insisted on the latter, thinking it would be helpful to introduce her into the kids’ lives.
But one visit was scotched by Katherine Jackson, and since then the Jacksons have resisted efforts to make a meeting possible. Rowe is unhappy with the situation, and is said to be instructing her attorney to go back to their family court judge for an intervention.
“Katherine doesn’t like the idea of the psychiatrist,” says a source. She also, plainly, doesn’t like the idea of the children’s natural mother getting close to them.
Maybe one reason is that there are a lot of questions about what is going on in the Jackson home. For one thing, one of Rowe’s provisions in the original agreement is that Joseph Jackson have nothing to do with the kids. He’s been revealed by Michael in several different kinds of interviews as abusive to children. He’s certainly been openly exploitative of Michael since his death.
But Joe Jackson has regularly been a presence in Prince, Paris and Blanket’s lives since Michael’s death and the court agreement. In fact, sources say he was there at Hayvenhurst last week with them.
To make matters worse, I received a call last week from a friend of Joe Jackson’s, and someone who usually defends the family.
“Those kids should not be in that house,” this insider told me. “All that’s talked about is money, Michael’s money, and how to get it. The kids are very sweet now. But they’ll be ruined if they turn into Jacksons.”
November 5th, 2009 at 10:54 am
thought the kids had a separate lawyer to represent them and that the judge had just got a report and he said that the kids were doing just fine and that he was happy to see that they were doing just fine why doesn’t this site report that instead of continuing trying to make the jackson family look bad all the time
November 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
the whole Debbie Rowe’s visitation thing doesn’t make any sense to me at all… It is clear that Michael Jackson didn’t want her to be part of the kids’ lives and he also “compensated” for that, and she agreed with that, so why in the world would make her think she would be able to be back into their lives again? Just because of MJ died doesn’t mean his interests aren’t there anymore. I think MJ’s mama probably clearly knows why MJ didn’t want Debbie around the kids, that’s why the visit hasn’t been possible…
November 5th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Debbie, go get your children!
November 5th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
I hope Debbie can protect those kids, but what about Blanket. I feel really bad for him. Hope Debbie genuinely care about the children’s welfare and not just the money.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
That doesn’t sound good, even if it’s only half true. Debbie Rowe has visitation rights and after this long, the children will be ready to gradually get used to her in their lives. With their only parent dead they need her, even if nanny Grace is fortunately present. It’s a fair assumption they need their mother, and it’s good she’s someone from the world outside of the Jacksons.
I never understood why she drifted out of their lives. I never understood why she said she didn’t want them in her own life, and I didn’t believe her. Michael Jackson’s wish to not share his parent experience with another person has always puzzled me. (How would it have been with Lisa Marie Presley?)
I hope the court settles this and that Katherine Jackson does everything she can to make the children’s contact with Rowe peaceful and good. The family should also track down Blanket’s biological mother and quietly find out if she would be interested in taking part in his life, and if she would be a good influence. She may not have maternal instincts, but if she has, he will need her. If at all possible, you will want to know whose blood you have, who you are like.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
You guys are crazy. Debbie and Blanket’s mother were nothing more than EGG donors, nothing more. MJ didn’t love Debbie, she knows that. He was still sleeping Lisa Marie OPENLY when he was married to Debbie during their sham marriage.I think it crazy that Joe Jackson can’t be involved in his GRANDKIDS lives. He has 20 plus grandkids, and I don’t see any of them complaining.Debbie should’ve used her maternal instincts before she just gave them away to MJ which she did. I don’t know why the Jackson family even settled with her. We heard from her own mouth that she didn’t want them to call her mom.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Enough with that fat bitch! Can she never make up her mind? When she gave the kids to Michael, she stately uneqivocally on television that she wanted nothing to do with them- she was just there to lend her uterus to help Michael out. Now she wants to be in their lives? STFU!
November 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
bitch you sold those kids a long time ago. joe is their grandparent, thechildren know him better than you. you were already paid off. the kigs love their grandparents. stfu. also roger freidman is a friend of debbie rowe. sleazy scumbag
November 5th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Music expert and mj – wow, the mouth on you two.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
axon ~ I agree with just about all you have said except (and you may not know this) MJ fired Grace-she has been implicated as an active participant in his demise-there is federal testimony from several sources that Grace was the primary opiate supplier to MJ-she has been identified as the person who filled Rx at several pharmacies-in many different names and kept a “hold on” Michael through the drugs-she was working on him to marry her-he said no-and shortly after he was getting busy and focused on TII-the rehearsals etc..he demanded she leave-fired her and told her to never return. The insomnia was much worse due to his withdrawal from the narcotics and the excitement of the tour prep. Not to go into more detail regarding MJ’s passing-but since Katherine has had custody-Grace is back full on with all 3 kids-had an auto accident with them when being hounded by paparazzi-instead of pulling over-calling LAPD and the million dollar security detail that the 3 kids have – she stupidly ran-IN THE CAR WITH THE CHILDREN!
So there is nothing fortunate about that manipulative selfish scumbag being anywhere near Mike’s 3 babies.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
‘Cali MJ Fan’ and ‘Axon’ are simply idiotic. The children don’t NEED her..it would be nice if she was in their lives but guess what? She hasn’t been for the past 12 years and they’ve been fine without her. The last thing they need is a negative influence and unfortunately she is one (with her short tempered, sour attitude. It would be a good idea for her to stop MESSING WITH THESE KIDS’ LIVES/MINDS. Also, she has no claim to Blanket and it is NOT her business whether HE SEES HIS GRANDFATHER or not.
I’m tired of people demonizing the Jacksons like Joe,LaToya and Jermaine are the only family members. The kids have all the love and support they need. And what is with that statement about ‘if they become Jacksons’. They ARE Jacksons.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
The kids know who she is now but they probably aren’t too desperate to see her or else they already would have. Just like Katherine, La Toya, Randy and Janet were against ‘This is It’ but the kids still pushed to see it. Just like Katherine wasn’t too fond of Grace but the kids obviously wanted her back. The kids aren’t dummies or fools and the fact that she has to go to court says a LOT.
Debbie probably doesn’t even really want to see them..she is playing games once again. NOW she wants to be a mother? I don’t care if MJ was there or not..MJ was not a woman and could not possibly fulfill the role of one (being a MOTHER)..She needed to be there a LONG time ago. Heck, Grace has been more of a mother to those kids than Debbie will ever be. She has been there for them and is still there with them and supporting them now. Why did the kids call for Grace and not Debbie (their MOTHER) when their father died? Debbie should be ashamed.
She said she wasn’t their mother; children aren’t toys who you can DECIDE WHEN to play with. Roger, you are being VERY biased here…supporting your friend I see.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I hope this is true that Debbie is going to go back to court to defend these kids. She is the only one with any hope of helping them.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
You know what Axon – I understand music expert and mj’s rage – Debbie Rowe is making me want to throw up… she needs to get on with her life – those kids are not asking for her. She needs to take her fat azz on and get her own “money” and her own life. STFU!
November 5th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Your friend Debbie Rowe just needs to go away. I understand she’s the mother but be a REAL mother would give the kids some time. They are already going through the biggest change of their life.
Joe Jackson was never banned from the home. In the court document it clearly states that he will be visiting his grandchildren. Debbie signed off on that.
Furthemore Michal said on the infamous Schmuley tapes that his dad was “very mellow now” and was a great grandfather. So Rowe needs to go back to her ranch, give the kids time to heal and introduce herelf slowly.
The judge had no concerns about the kids and didn’t even want further reports.
I am so tired of all these “sources” and Karen Faye, Arnie Klein and the other hanger-ons who for some reason want to run this family’s life. WHY, WHY? Do they have no life of their own?
Michael is dead. If he wanted them to do anything for him after death they would have been in his will and not Katherine. My goodness!
November 5th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Why are you people always so angry with Debbie? I’ve read about tons of surrogate mothers who gave birth to a child and gave up their maternal rights and – oh, yes! – they get paid for that!!!
If it was not for Debbie, Michael might have never become a father, you know? And what she did WAS a great gift for him!
And you, who are calling her fugly – she is in her 50s, and she gave birth to two children! She deserves respect!!! And she is NOT ugly – to me she looks like an average woman in that age. She was, however, quite pretty when she was younger – look at the pictures when she was about 30-40 years old – I think she was beautiful back then. And would Michael choose an ugly woman to be a biological mother of his kids? I don’t think so! Look at Paris – she is so beautiful and she does look like Debbie.
So what she now wants to be a part of the children’s lives? Maybe it’s because she sees them everyday on paparazzi pictures and is worried about them! They have already lost their beloved Dad and Debbie may really care about their wellbeing. She was sure that they are OK when they were with Michael but now how can she know? Does she know MJ family? She gave the children to MICHAEL not to his parents or brothers. It is perfectly normal that she wants to know what is going on in their lives after Michael’s death. She is only asking for visitation rights not for living with the children on a daily basis. I bet the kids would love to have her in their lives, Debbie lives a normal, decent life and might be a far better role model for the children than the Jackson family altogether. – she won’t harm them. But what about Joe?
November 5th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Those kids should know their mother(s). Now that Michael isn’t around, she should have some place in their lives.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
I apologize for my typos earlier. I am just a little miffed with Debbie Rowe and was typing way too fast!
November 5th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
11/5/2009 You must understand, Michael make people sign agreements, he had agreed to let her see the kids once a month then he went overseas, she would call and sercurity won’t put her through Michael had a way of paying money to people and saying take the money and go away, if these were my kids and he agreed upon me seeing them once a month his ass would have been in court no one is above the law
November 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
All I know is, I just hope people act like sensible adults in this situation IF true and not cause anymore trauma to Michael’s kids!
November 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
How reliable is this “insider”? The kids are already Jacksons, just FYI.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Debbie is the one who has not made the effort! Katherine would never be mean like that! Maybe the kids don’t want to see her! Debbie said in interviews she did not want the kids,she did not want the to call her mom! MJ is their biological dad he raised those children! She needs to back off and leave them alone! They are going great without her!
November 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Axon:
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
It was Debbie’s refusal to meet with Michael and the kids with a shrink that put an end to visitation. Michael agreed immediately to do so, Debbie did not. That put an end to visitation.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
I don’t feel sorry for Debbie Rowe. She’s still getting PAID, even though Jacko is dead. Jacko treated her badly too, and they are just continuing more of the same. She never demanded they treat her with respect, so to me, they have none for her. I believe she’s just someone they believe they have to keep paying off. I believe Jacko used her as an obvious beard because he could have never adopted kids with his track record of boys complaining about him.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Well, I was one of the people who were AGAINST Debbie Rowe getting custody of the kids. But after 4 months, and the way the Jacksons keep EXPLOITING those 3 innocent kids…I think Debbie Rowe would be the next best thing after MJ. Latoya, JOe, Jermaine are constantly selling the kids’ private lives to the highest bidder. So yes, Debbie Go GET YOUR KIDS AND Blanket.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
I would not worry about Debbie, as long as those “spousal support” payments keep rollin’ in, she’ll stay away. She makes moves every once in a while to “appear” concerned but she is SO not interested in parenting. It’s a tough job and she knows she does not posses the skills.
For all of you speaking this nonsense about the children needing her now that Michael is dead… please take a Child Development course. You are speaking out of your own maternal experiences and have no clue what these children need. In my state, once a child has been in the foster care system a long time and they are the age of 11, PPLA is an option. This means Permanent Placement/Living Arrangement. The parent in this case may not consent to adoption but because the child is 11 yo it can be determined that the parent is no longer an option and the child actually can have a voice in where they go. We have determined that this age is where children can share what they want with significant impact. Prince and Paris both signed statements saying they were aware of the living arrangement and it was their preference, it’s similar standards.
They NEED Debbie Rowe about as much as they need ME. She is the egg donor. They are of the age where if they CHOSE to seek her out, she should be available but forcing a relationship at this vulnerable time could be way too much of a change and far too much to process. Where does Blanket go while they are getting to know “bio mom”? Does she pretend to be his mom too? Does she not? How do they explain, we’ve got a mom, you’ve still got zip, little buddy! What about, where has she been? why did she leave? Try processing all this info while trying to still make sense of why daddy never woke up. She’s a disruption to an established family system. 11 and 12 are way too late in the game to be playing “mommy”
It would be nice (in the future) to integrate her if it were based in ANY authentic feelings but there’s no evidence it is.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
If Debbie has a genuine interest in her two children, then she should be allowed to establish a relationship with them. They are getting older day by day, they are preteens, at a very tender age. The time to make an effort is now, if she cares anything about them. I would never leave my two children at the hands of the Jackson family. These people are a bunch of greedy liars who are latching on to these children for their inheritance. They are not even biologically related to the Jacksons anyway. They should at least have some connection to a bio relative.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
First of all the kids are Jacksons already Roger they are not going to be turned into Jacksons. Joe Jackson can go and see his grand kids. Debbie may not like it but oh well. I am sure Michael would not like the fact you might have them around Marc. Prince and Paris are 1 and 12 maybe they don’t want to see you maybe they know all about you and how you gave them up. Like it or not Prince and Paris told a judge they wanted to stay with there grandmother not the horses. And the judge said during the last hearig the children are doing wonderful. So wonderful he did not need anymore updates. To late now Debbie to play Mother you had your chance more then once.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Oh and anyone want to bet Miss Rowe is going to ask real soon for a portion of the kids money?
November 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Debbie said she gave Michael the kids as a gift. If it were not for doing this for Michael she would not have had any kids. What do she want now? More money. If this is true Debbie need to take it easy, please remember those kids are mourning the lost of their father. Roger I think you are full of alot of B.S. You drag Michael’s name through the mud when he was living, Remember??? I don’t believe every darn thing I read from these gossip writers. And Calista, his name is Michael Jackson, not Jacko. get it right!!!! I believe Katherine will do what’s right for the children because she loves them and she loved Michael.
November 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
@Karen – great point about Schaffel, that piece of scum is reason alone. I could not believe when I saw her coming from a TII screening with him. GROSS!
November 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Any way you look at it, this is a sad situation. I think a lot of people within and outside of the family will try to get to the kids because of the money. Those kids need people to protect and nurture them. I think that was the problem with MJ from the time he was a child. He had no one to stand up for him and protect him..he was exploited from all sides. Hopefully the grandmother will be strong enough to prevent this from happening with the children. The only two siblings that I think would be helpful in this are Janet and possibly the oldest sister Rebbie. I hope that between the three of them, these kids can grow up with love and stability.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Siobhan – I agree, this is a sad situation. But probably not as messy as it seems. Nobody gets to pick the family they’re born into, but as families go, the Jacksons are not so bad. Look at Ryan O’Neal and his kids!
If Debbie Rowe wants to run to court, she should look into what Arnie Klein has been saying about her on TMZ Live. It will not enhance her chance to get visitation if it’s true, and if it’s false, she needs to take action.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
SAMANTHA, I totally agree!!
Debbie should be a part of those kids lives. They need to be around people other than the jacksons. who is parenting and loving them?? all you ever read is that they are playing with the cousins, and Latoya revealing things supposedly said by Paris that I find very hard to believe. It’s seems apparent to me that the jacksons are using Michael’s three kids.
I think the judge made a big mistake not requesting a follow up on the welfare of the kids.
Go Debbie!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
I’m not talking only from a maternal experience, but also from that of having been a child growing up under unusual circumstances. You need all the family members you can get. Michael Jackson grew up in the Jackson family, and see what happened to him.
I don’t know about any authority demanding Debbie Rowe and Michael Jackson seeing a psychiatrist with the children, who did that and why?
None of us here knows even a fraction of what went on between Debbie Rowe and Michael Jackson. Let’s not pretend any of them was our next door neighbor confiding in us over the kitchen table. I heard Arnie Klein on TMZ but I don’t know him either, so I can’t rely completely on his word.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:58 am
Also 3 things”
1) Debbie should ask the judge to muzzle the Jacksons from selling the kids private business to the UK tabloids & american entertainment shows. Latoya has made it her new career to go on every talk show who is willing to have her to talk MJ’s death & the kids grieving. That heifer needs to get a damn job
2) Debbie should ask the judge to forbid the Jacksons from tipping the paparazzi when the kids are going out. Someone within that compound is calling the wolves whenever the kids step out of that house. MJ would be livid
3) MJ WOULD NOT want his kids interacting with Marc Schaffel
November 6th, 2009 at 3:07 am
Due to the fact that Katherine stood by and watched her own children be tortured and did nothing tells me she is another “Joe”.I cringed when I heard his children were going to go to her. They would be better off anywhere else in the world besides that disfunctional , money grubbing household.
I hope Debbie gets her children away from them ASAP! NONE of the jackson kids grew up with a healthy outlook on life and THEY destroyed them. I often wondered why childrens services didn;t come in on them , knowing they were being tortures.
Michael would snap if he knew his children were around Joe at all. When he made his will out (2002) Joe was not living anywhere around and was not there. even if Debbie doesn’t want to mother the children, she may have good family members that would. Katherine Jackson should be sued for going against her wishes and the kids should be taken away from them NOW, before they have even a tiny chance of undoing what Michael did as a wonderful father. GET THEM OUT OF THERE!!!!! But what about Blanket. I hate to see them apart….I have ben worried about all of them and especilly blanket all along. They pay no attention to him. Watch the memorial and watch Blanket….
November 6th, 2009 at 4:32 am
I hate that Michael wasn’t married to a loving wife when he was murdered. I wonder if Lisa Marie had been the mother to these 3 innocent kids would they be better off and protected. At least when Elvis died, Lisa had Priscilla to guard and protect her inheritance. Prince, Paris and Blanket have NO ONE who really cares about them as people, I shudder to think about as they get older and realize they are swimming in a land of snakes that is their biological family. Joe Jackson is evil and signed off on Michael being murdered from birth, and Debbie Rowe isn’t any better still collecting money from Michael’s estate after his death. Can somebody please send those 3 innocent babies to Miss Ross? they might have a shot of sanity with that, otherwise they are going to be messed up and screwed up without their dad.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:55 am
Had the children been Presley’s, I am sure they’d have been better off.
So what do they have, as far as we know from the outside? Maybe some good members of that vast family. They have Taylor, at least now and then. They have Omer, of whom I think pretty highly since he doesn’t give interviews. They have Grace to provide continuity.
Unfortunately, they have bad things around them too, like jealousy and greed. The unconditional love they got from their father may help them through.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:58 am
“Those kids are sweet now, but they’ll be ruined if they’re turned into Jacksons.” Really? That seems to be a common concern for certain folks once they clamped eyes on those kids’ features. Arnie Klein keeps pushing the “lazy, greedy negroes” angle and Friedman seems to be on that train lately too.
Riddle me this, if the Jacksons are so reprehensible, why are all of their offspring so well adjusted?
Seriously, think about it. These kids are all gorgeous, private schooled, non-tabloid fodder. Not a ONE is seen in anybody’s club or selling family secret for dough. Y’all need to stop pushing that libelous narrative— We ALL know that Joe’s a jerk and Jermaine is, well, ugh, Jermaine. But the other brothers have done NOTHING to deserve this slander. And, by the way, they all don’t live in Hayvenhurst with the kids, so what the heck are folks talking about?!
November 6th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Well, I suppose some of Jermaine’s children are living with Katherine, and he seems to be in contact with her a lot – remember the Vienna fiasco and the tape she made to support him? Guess much talk about those issues took place at the house. There is also the reality show going on, they have to be in touch over that. Then the constant contacts with lawyers over the will. Then LaToya giving many interviews and appearing on talk shows.
Agreed, the family is often taken as a whole when they may be very different, leading different lives. That’s not fair, and I rarely mention the family because of that reason. But Michael Jackson’s children are undeniably in the midst of things. I am just hoping the best for them.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:15 am
@whilome – also good points! Some of the siblings have their issues but which grandchild has a DUI? Has spilled out of a limo sans panties? Has entered rehab? Has been in a sex tape or caught in the bathroom of XYZ doing “blow” off a toilet? I can’t name one. LaToya talks too much, Jermaine self-promotes like crazy and Joe… well… he’s 80 (Thank GOD) Apparently the unsavory characteristics of “these people” have little impact on the Jackson grandchildren and hopefull MJ’s children will grow similarly
@Samantha – I agree with #3, Only Debbie herself can stop that!
November 6th, 2009 at 8:43 am
What is Debbie Rowe’s connection to Marc Schaffel?
November 6th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Debbie Rowe had not been in the children’s lives before Michael’s death upon agreement. It is much concern as to her motives to break the agreement after his death. The children could not and would not anything in common with her because SHE has chosen to not be apart of their lives. This could be very confusing for them as for her reasons to now want to become active and I would not want her to appear in my life, being in Michael’s children shoe’s.
To the comment about Michael not being married and Lisa Marie taking care of the children: Lisa Marie is clearly unstable. I believe she love her own children to the best of her ability, but what is the definition of To Love? She is a bit unfit, unstable and inappropriate and by My standards of To Love, she definitely wound not pass the bar in order to raise children. But I am sure Michael was very happy with his children alone, so I say GO Michael and you lived well.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Could someone tell me how come Debbie Rowe put on so much weight. I know she has always been bigger than MJ, but now she looks pretty heavy. I know she lives on a ranch. Wonder what kind of lifestyle she has.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:59 am
whilhome – right on the money. Excellent post.
“Had the children been Presley’s, I am sure they’d have been better off.”
axon – They wouldn’t exist. Lisa Marie refused to have MJ’s children. That’s why he took up Debbie Rowe’s “generous” offer. And considering that LMP is on her fourth marriage, she may not be the best example of family stability.
“2) Debbie should ask the judge to forbid the Jacksons from tipping the paparazzi when the kids are going out. Someone within that compound is calling the wolves whenever the kids step out of that house.”
SAMANTHA – the paps stake out the house. Nobody has to call them, they’re already there. The children have the right to live their lives. There would be complaints if they were never allowed to leave the compound.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:11 am
i think debbie is really lyin, those kid are doin well with their grandma and other family members. The jacksons are nice people michael would have loved that if he was still living and who is the insider 2 tell somebody something they always in somebody elses business they need 2 mind their own business where they kids at peolple just need 2 mind their own these days worry about themselves first!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:23 am
I think that Mrs. Jackson should allow the children to visit their mother. Michael Jackson is not their biological father, he bought them, and choose a white woman to carry them. Michael jackson repeatedly created a life filled with drama, so now we will she what plays out with these white manufactured children. Michael jackson owes his family so much money and i hope they all get what they deserve, especially Joe jackson.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:24 am
I know LMP didn’t want to have children with him, because she was not certain the marriage would last.
I just read an interview from 2003 with Debbie Rowe. She said what I felt may be the truth – that had she been able to stand the media scrutiny and fabrications, she would have liked to stay married to MJ forever “or until he tired of me” (why so submissive, Deb?) I don’t know why they drifted apart, of course, but for the children’s sake maybe they shouldn’t have.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Another reason I’m so sorry Michael is gone. I just want what is best for his kids. I am not convinced Debbie Rowe is what’s best. And this Marc fellow, I know who he is and I don’t trust him. Debbie had the kids for Michael, not for herself. These kids are worth alot of money and who ever have them are set for life. But I am hoping that both side will put the interest of those kids first and foremost. Last thing they need is to be torn apart and to go through some ugly court battle. We know they are still dealing with losing their father. I do want to say this, I am also alittle pist at all the Jackson bashing also. They are not perfect, but show me a family that is. And we know nothing about Debbie Rowe, what kind of Mother would she be. I think the kids belong with Mrs. Katherine Jackson, were Michael wanted them.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Well Debbie,
where the fuck was your ass 12 years ago. Now their dad is gone you want to take them back in again. THATS NOT WHAT MOTHERHOOD’s About.
GET IT TOGETHER HONESTLY!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:18 am
A. Darton: Rowe hasn’t asked for custody, only visitation rights, and I think that is wise. I don’t think she will ask for custody unless something completely unexpected occurs. She is the backup mother at the moment, but for her to be able to step in in case the need would ever arise, they must learn to know her. She can also provide them with another facet of their father. For years before they were born it seems Michael and Debbie had a great and fun relationship, and they would like to hear that.
But what will happen to Blanket? He has no mother, no father. He is bound to be hurt. Debbie wants to be there for him as well, according to what I’ve heard, but she can’t transform herself into his biological mother. Michael Jackson did not arrange a very good situation here.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:39 am
i just wish we could all know the truth. So many people (commenting here) want the very best for those 3 kids & I tend to agree with most comments by axon – just wish I knew if Debbie REALLY wants what’s best for the kids – she needs to do a real interview with a reputable outlet and let everyone know what she’s about. I tend to think she would be a good influence on the kids. I also tend to think the Jackson clan as a group are not a good influence.
Where the heck is my crystal ball?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Axon…NEWSFLASH…You trust Omer??? What would you think if I told you Omer is one of the people TIPPING the paparazzi when the kids go to Karate class? And last time he got 26 000$ for selling out MJ’s kids.
Don’t be fool…all these grown ass adults don’t have any type of jobs…except selling those 3 children.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Awww Roger … like I would believe anything that comes out of these people’s mouth … an insider … WOW. She doesn’t deserve to see them … she was a damn surrogate and even when Michael allowed her by law the privilege to gain her parental rights back … they never saw her at all. She needs to fall back and let those kids breathe and live a normal life without her interfering and messing up Blanket’s life. I will never support this at all. People will always say the family is after money as an excuse to bring them in the public eye and to cause strife for them in court where it is not needed. I wish Mrs. Jackson could be active so she could move from out of the states and travel with those kids as often as Michael did to keep them away from that cunt B*tch. People need to stop using Joe as a scapegoat for everything. They are doing an A&E special and Joe is going to be involved so they are using this as some form of excuse to disrupt those kids family life all over again. The only family they have ever known is the Jacksons … everyone else were their dad’s friends.
For those who think that the marriage was based on intimate love … please don’t be fooled, she is so far in-love delusionally with him that she will always protect him and the public will always use the 2003-05 trial as a means to give her sympathy votes for being a good ex-wife and ex-mother … for those who see the light like me …hmm I will never buy it. No excuse for her. She is a surrogate that needs to stay in her lane and her place. I support the Jacksons 1000% with or without con artist Joe Jackson.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
I am not sure how I feel about Debbie Rowe.Personally I could never give up my kids but then again,there are surrogates out there doing it every day.You hear stories about children who have been put up for adoptions searching for their bio parents when they get older,they all seem to say there was something missing in their lives until they found them.I think maybe Debbie should be in the kids lives,not sure if they will ever accept her or not but they need to know she is there for them.I’m not sure I trust the nanny Grace either,I know she helped Michael raise the kids from babies and is probably really attached to them but Michael fired her once for some reason.Poor Blanket has no one.I just hope it all works out OK for the kids.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Lastly, besides the Jackson siblings .. I haven’t heard any scandalous behaviors happening with the other grand kids. I haven’t seen any negative association about them and they all appear to be good nature kids from their myspace pages etc etc as well as in public etc etc … You freaking reporters and gossip blogs need to leave the family alone and stop labeling them as a band instead of as individuals. Some of the siblings may have made poor choices in their lives, however, they all have great characters and many of their friends have attest to that … get a life and keep Debbie away … she has nothing to offer them. She was invited to the funeral and she never went, she was given tickets to see his movie privately and she didn’t accept them but now all of a sudden she has a problem with visitation. I smell a story somewhere and one filled with con-ish mentality by friends of hers which includes YOU Roger.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I’d hope that anybody claiming to care about MJs kids would consider what talking trash about their mother would do to them. Michael Jackson himself never had a bad word to say about this woman. She gave him a gift of herself and however you think of how she’s been compensated, she doesn’t deserve the hate. SHE’s never sold out MJ. She’s been a staunch defender of her ex-husband and has slammed Klein as an opportunist. Yeah, she’s friends with Marc Shaeffel..and? MJ was friends with him, too, before they had a falling out! I’ll say this: I’m a MJ fan, but judging from that slimey Klein and pathetic hangers-on Marc Lester, Uri Gellar, and Schmuley “don’t ever print this”, “Okay, Michael” Boteach— he had the WORST taste in friends I’ve ever seen. Those weren’t friends, they were leeches and vampires. Just like Lisa Marie Presley said.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
@whilome – Out of that list of shady characters, there’s one clear distinction to be made about the “honorable” Ms. Rowe. She’s the only one still getting paid. I would not bite that hand that fed me either.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
She does not care about those kids, because if she did she would have never given them away in the first place so willingly. She is PATHETIC!
November 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
@Shannon — be that as it may, she gave the dude two kids. Even when he wasn’t honoring their agreement (remember, she took his ass to court), she didn’t sell him out. She loves the hell out of them horses, but I believe she loved MJ too, in her fashion. She was on the stand begging for their connection, even in lieu of money. He’d cut her off, the same as Lisa Marie accused him of doing to her. Apparently, once you’ve basked in his considerable glow, you miss it when it goes away. Now, Klein, Boteach, et al. are trying to reflect it a little while longer. Debbie wants her allowance and her ranch, not our vitriol. Oh, and apparently she wants the court ordered contact with her children respected. That too much to ask?
November 6th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
First of all, people need to realize that Debbie Rowe’s maternal actions or lack thereof make perfect sense if you remember that she was really a surrogate. Surrogate mothers carry babies for nine months, give birth, get paid, then they’ve done their job. It seems obvious that both Debbie Rowe and MJ saw their relationship that way, although they weren’t forthcoming about that. The only difference from the usual surrogacy is that MJ married her for whatever reasons (religious views, pleasing mom?) but it clearly wasn’t love. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if that marriage was something MJ later regretted when he tried to continue to treat her as a surrogate and she wanted some (ex)-marital rights. This is still continuing after his death due to our laws not being up to our reproductive technology.
So, it doesn’t make any sense for the kids to be with the surrogate, who never wanted them, just to do someone a favor or at least to get paid for having them.
As for all the concern about these kids, remember that bad talking their family, who they are living with and who are caring for them will hurt them. The Jacksons are not perfect but as others have mentioned, the most interesting information I’ve heard on any of the grandkids is that they went to college, got married, had kids. None are even really still in show business. I think Michael gave the kids a good start and they will be fine if people just let Katherine raise the kids as Michael wanted.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Vitriol is certainly unnecessary, but you must forgive me if I am not buying the altruism of Ms. Rowe’s intentions. I’d never call the woman out of her name and I think there is room, on some level, for her in the kid’s lives. I also remember her taking MJ to court, he was in fact in family court fighting to keep his children at the SAME time he was in criminal court fighting to keep his freedom. That was slightly inconvenient timing, so while Ms. Rowe was fawning over the mere memory of their times together in criminal court she was wheeling and dealing in family court
Some may perceive that she was just trying to set up a default situation in case MJ went to prison, I saw it differently. I won’t suggest that MJ was perfect and treated everyone he encountered perfectly but Debbie has her motives and they are not all based in protecting “her” children. If she truly wants the court order honored it will be but I won’t be surprised if another convenient agreement is reached and these visitations just don’t seem to pan out.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Even a surrogate is a human being, maybe with conflicting emotions about things. People are complicated.
If Jackson had not married Rowe, he might not have had any rights to the children whatsoever, if they are not his biologically. He would have been totally dependent on Rowe’s goodwill. Based on her happy face during that marriage – I’d say even though she agreed to have the babies solely for him, she felt deeply for him.
I may have been posting here more than anyone else on the subject, but I’d like to remind us that we actually don’t know any of the people we are talking about, so this whole thing is really weird. We are weird. Let’s stay polite. Calling Rowe a b*tch and c*nt as if she had done anything to you personally is just crazy. She is not in our lives.
I’d say that if anyone based any opinions on me on what people close to me could be saying, they wouldn’t even be close to the truth. So I take it the same goes here: We just don’t know.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
she didnt visit with them in all these years now that Micks dead she care about her kids? It could be that the kids don’t want to visit her they don’t know here. If the kids go back to court and say the refuse to visit with her they are old enough that most judges will consider their feelings.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
First of all at the end of the day it does not matter is mick was the biological father of the kids or not after all these years. He is the custodial parent the only custodial parent. Debra Rowe signed them away like cattle so she had no rights to them. The reason she didnt go to court after Michael death is because she knows there’s a good chance his will is going to stand and she will lose all access to the kids.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Ok, but what abt their biological father?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
@Anna thank you … I wish these delusional people would stay out of their lives … whether he was the biological father is not the question … she was a SURROGATE and she stated so out of her own mouth. The American Law system needs to be fixed. She did not earn her right as their mother. People seem to forget that there is a third child involved here … disrupting the older children’s lives out of greed, guilt, press pressure, and lies will not benefit him. Whether I know her or not to call her a B*TCH she still is a SELFISH B*TCH. I know Michael regretted doing what he did with her that is why he got a new surrogate privately. I don’t believe that her having complications let to him divorcing her. Who’s to tell if she wanted to a farm animal having 3 or more children for him. We don’t know that either. Like I said … people need to butt out of their family lives. We are quick to judge the family but when it comes to Debbie we must reserve judgment … I don’t think so – that is a big double standard that I will not partake in. The kids are where they belong with their family. We all have family disruptions every day – friends should know that even if we complain to them, they must still remain objective and stay out of family business. Like the saying goes -Blood is thicker than water – genetics is not the question here. Those kids are Jacksons. Roger and his press goons need to stay out of it. Let them be at peace.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Samurai woman, you want people to stay out of other people’s lives, yet you are here spitting venom at a woman you don’t even know. You want people to not judge, yet you judge Rowe without any restraint at all. You say blood is thicker that water, but somehow that is not applying to her. Would you start yelling at her like you do here if you actually met her?
This is nuts. You are angry at something, but it has nothing to do with the Jacksons or Debbie Rowe. You are not simply taking an interest, you are using them to vent some other anger.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:59 am
I have to give Debbie Rowe a little credit,atleast she went to court to keep Joe away from raising her kids.So maybe she does have some maternal feelings towards them.I have watched every interview that has been on TV since Michael died,seems to me there was one where they were saying Debbie had complications with Paris when she was born and couldn’t have any more children.Maybe this is why Michael got another surrogate.This didn’t come from Michael himself so it is hard to say if it is true or not,90% of what you read or hear is garbage.
November 7th, 2009 at 5:18 am
Again, let’s consider our semantics and the real possibility that MJs kids will someday google this mess. Debbie Rowe isn’t a surrogate, she was a wife. Just like a trophy wife isn’t a whore, but a wife. MJ put a ring on it, that’s on him. They live in California, she could have been WAY more mercenary. My original point is that Friedman’s chosen angle is to portray ALL the Jacksons as greedy is based on more than his idea of a good story. It goes deeper than that. Skin deep.
Randy isn’t participating in ANY part of the resultant activities except for accompanying his mother to custody court and the criminal investigation. His last missive is: “Underneath the excitement and pandemonium, a murder goes unsolved. My family won’t forget because I won’t let them.”
A message to “certain people” in his clan who seems to have doffed the mourning and started self-promotion. But Randy, I suppose, is lumped in with the “lazy, greedy negroes” meme that Levin, Friedman and Klein wants to spread.
November 7th, 2009 at 6:54 am
As Joe jackson has filed a court order for monthly payment to MJs estate, Debbie Rowes worries about Joe jackson seems at least partly understandable. Also it is a fact that the Jacksons are fighting about the money and are deeply divided.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:42 am
It’s fair to believe Jackson did not instruct his mother to give an allowance to his father, but that it was understood. Supposedly his mother got such a large portion of the estate (or income thereof) for the same reason – to be able to give portions of it to the rest of the family, if she is so inclined.
Has Joe Jackson any legal claim on the estate? Beside his wife he has eight living children, some of whom could provide smaller sums to him if they want to. In my country, if there are children, parents do not inherit automatically.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Okay so let’s sum this up:
1. Jacksons are “lazy, greedy, Negroes” (I love this term
) who want to live off of MJ’s money and corrupt his children in the process OR a family that has several members, some of whom are jerks, some of whom are great but all of whom love one another and can get it together enough to provide the best lives they can for the children. They are human beings and are complicated.
2. Debbie Rowe is selfish, greedy, gold digger who is nothing more than an “egg donor” or “surrogate” who has been using MJ’s various issues the past 5 yrs to up the ante on her value OR she is a woman who was one thing in one situation and has become something else under different circumstances OR she is a Mom who loves and wants to be with her children when they need her most despite her previous absence. She is a human being and is complicated.
3. We don’t know any of these people and no matter where we fall on the opinion spectrum, all of our judgment comes from snippets of the “facts” we’ve been able to piece together. None of us know the whole story and it just end ups being conjecture because, after all, we are human beings and it’s complicated.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Shannon: Right.
But may we assume that Michael Jackson wanted Debbie Rowe to carry children for him, and that she did just that, and that he was grateful or at least had a reason to be?
And may we assume that Michael Jackson wrote his will the way he wanted it, and by contesting it his father is not respecting his son’s wishes?
At least those two things should be considered hard facts.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:28 am
This did not surprise me about Joe filing a court order,what did surprise me is he didn’t do this alot sooner.I wouldn’t doubt if he wasn’t the one behind Katherine filing for a larger monthly income as well.If Katherine wants to give Joe some of this money that is her business as long as they leave Michael’s kids money alone.On the other hand,Michael didn’t leave his father in his will for a reason,this family had to file bankruptcy in the past,MJ knew his dad was not good at handling money.Granted, Joe got the kids started in their careers but that doesn’t give him the right to inherit Michael’s hard earned money unless Michael wanted it that way.The last I knew,Joe has other children,can’t they also help out with their parents??
I don’t pretend to know the family personally,the only two I have a problem with is Jermaine and LaToya and it is a well known fact what they did to MJ.And lets not forget what Jermaine did to his brother Randy,sleeping with his wife.He can’t very well deny it because they have kids together.I feel it was just as much her fault as Jermaine’s, but the way I was raised,family is family and Jermaine crossed the line.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Correction. Joe Jackson has not eight living children, he has nine.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Wow, Shannon, I put that term out there sarcastically, yet you “love” it. That’s my cue to ease on out of this conversation. The king is dead.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
@axon – agreed about Joe and about MJ’s wishes!
@whilome – uh… yeah, I got the sarcasm dear, being a “negro” myself… I understood it completely. That was my compliment. Please don’t have a Chapelle moment
November 7th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
@Shannon: LOL!! Let me get off this site. Joe Jackson’s going to make my head explode. His petitioning for money is GOOD news, tho. It means that Katherine isn’t rolling over and supporting his ass! Let me stop. You know what’s really weird? By all accounts, Joe is a better Grandpa than he was a father. What’s up with that?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
@ axon…… Above anything else, I just want what is best for Michael’s kids. I’m still not sure if meeting Debbie Rowe is best for them. Just my opinion.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
@whilome – I thought the same thing! He must be having a hard time getting the money out of Katherine if he’s going for it himself. Yeah, well… good luck on that
I think he has mellowed though, I mean he’s the same age as my grandpa. How much time is on his clock? He may have some of the same old motives but i don’t think he’d be abusive toward those kids if for no other reason than they can out run him lol!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
@Shannon – loved your summary….I almost stopped after your negro comment, but kept going and glad I did!
People, please stop with the insults towards Debbie Rowe, the Jacksons or whoever, treat people with respect. The kinds of insults people fling on the internet are really just depressing. More importantly, all these people are important to the Jackson3, so remember they can read these things sometime and they will be hurtful.
As the surrogate (yes, my opinion and not an insult, just a possible fact) and biological mother (I think), the two older kids should know Debbie Rowe.
My opinion on Joe Jackson’s petitioning for an allowance from the MJ estate…court should determine the amount of money MJ was paying Katherine when she was alive and give her the same personal amount (separate from the kids money). That way, she can ’share’ the money as she has been accustomed to and maybe her court filings will stop, arguments in front of grieving kids will stop, grandma raising kids will be less stressed, etc.
I think Michael knew he was supporting Dad and some sibs through his mom and did it while he was alive, seemed to have given mom the largest share while she is alive so that she could continue that.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:34 am
In my opinion,Michael may have told the kids at one time that Debbie Rowe was just a family friend but I feel he may have told them the truth when they got old enough to understand.I don’t see how he could have avoided it when the whole world knows who the kids Mom is.It is only natural when kids reach a certain age they start asking questions.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Barb: They must have started asking questions long ago. In the notorious Bashir documentary, he claims they said to him “we have no Mom”. That was in 2003. Now, the two eldest are eleven and twelve.
Where are the photos of the children with MJ and DR? Have they ever seen them? Without knowing them, you get the impression Paris is very strong and knows what she wants. MJ said she is a warrior, whereas Prince is more meek and obedient. I wouldn’t be surprised if she has already, even before MJ died, pushed the issue of meeting with her mother. I think she is a great big sister to her little brother.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Axon,I bet the kids asked questions long ago also.Michael and Debbie never tried to keep it a big secret so I don’t understand why the Jackson family isn’t allowing the meeting to take place yet.Eventually if the kids want Debbie in their lives there isn’t much the family can do about it.You are so right about Paris,I see many wonderful things coming from her in the future!
November 8th, 2009 at 8:09 am
I think there’s lingering resentment towards Ms. Rowe from Mrs. Jackson because of what happened during MJs trial. He’d arranged for the kids to be cared for by his mother in the event of his incarceration or death (as per the 2002 will). During the criminal trial, Ms. Rowe took him to court for custody. Katherine and other members of the family were NOT pleased about her actions. Four months is still a short amount of time to deal with you only parent’s death, integrating into a new homelife, and reintroduction to the mother you don’t remember. I’m wondering if Schaeffel has more to do with this push for visitation than Rowe. He IS a filmmaker. Picture: The Reunion! on A&E.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:12 am
No matter how people feel about it, there was an agreement in place that Katherine agreed to and Katherine is not living up to her word. Even Katherine’s lawyer remarked about how cooperative Debbie had been.
It’s really not up MJ fans to decide whether Debbie should she her kids. She has the right to see them, and Katherine is not respecting that right just like the Jackson family is not respecting Michael’s will.
It’s disturbing to hear that even a friend of the family is concerned about the atmosphere in the Jackson home. It does seem that Katherine is isolating the children and wants total control over them. I wonder what kind of conversations the children are overhearing if family members are plotting about how they can get their hands on their father’s money.
I do think its in the children’s best interests to have someone outside the family to talk to like the psychologist who was suppose to be involved with them.
I hope the judge gets tough with Katherine.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Interesting How Debbie Has Had No Contact With Her Children In Years, Now That They’ll Be Receiving Allowances From Michael’s Estate, She Wants To See Them.
Also, Technically She Sold Away Her Rights As A Mother, Which Legally Puts Her In The Position Of Any Other Person As Regards Visitation Rights, It Isn’t Going To Happen.
Thankfully The Children Will Be Raised By Katherine & Rebbie, The Only Members Of The Family Who Attempt To Stay Out Of The Public Eye, Which Is What They Need, With All The Rumors Around In The Media, Which Is Not What Grieving Children Need. Just Leave The Kids To Katherine & Rebbie And Keep Contact With The Money-Hungry Members Of The Family To The Bare Minimum.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
” In the notorious Bashir documentary, he claims they said to him “we have no Mom”.”
Apparently without MJ’s knowledge or consent, Bashir asked Prince “where’s your mother”. I’m sure he was hoping the child would burst into tears of confusion. What a scumbag, to pull a “gotcha” on a four year old.
I’d like to believe that Ms. Rowe really has an interest in the children. However it has been suggested that her real aim is to get spousal payments that MJ missed before the current agreement went into effect, and that she’s using the visitation issue as leverage. Mrs. Jackson is required to account to the court for every penny that she receives from the estate. But Debbie Rowe gets more than Katherine and the kids combined, and she’s free to spend it in any way she chooses. I’m not hatin’ on her for that, but why is she portrayed as some kind of martyr? (I am dying to know what she spends all that money on – clearly it’s not haute couture and spa appointments.)
November 8th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Anything owed to Debbie will be handled by the executors. Katherine doesn’t have a damn thing to say about it.
The money thing not a valid argument.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Yes – if Debbie Rowe has legitimate claims, she must direct them to the estate. That she uses visitation right to blackmail Katherine Jackson is pure conjecture.
Rowe doesn’t want Joe Jackson near the children. And now I am the one doing the guessing, but knowing that it’s reasonable to believe she wanted custody to avoid that. Her action also made her a witness for the prosecution – which position she used to help Michael Jackson.
I don’t think DR is a martyr, or trying to be, but she seems very confused about her own feelings in the situation. That’s understandable. The idea of giving someone two babies the way she did (meaning well) builds in an amount of tragedy in the children’s lives. They don’t have a Mom. And MJ then getting a third baby the way he did, anonymously, makes that child in one sense totally alone and different from his siblings.
Yes, Bashir is a total scumbag. Uri Geller introduced MJ to two scumbags: Bashir and Boteach.
November 9th, 2009 at 2:11 am
Debbie Rowe: Back To Court on Jackson Kids Visit
Debbie and Arnie are odd characters. Debbie and Arnie are close lovers for decades. They could very likely be in a money scheme together. Arnie looks crossed, crooked, and coercive. What kind of people are they? Were they business people scheming and stealing money in an odd way? I see them as starting out as friends of MJ but later moving into his life and pressuring for money. Did they blackmail Michael? Hardly and rarely can you find an honest and a fair business person. All these odd-ones want is money and destruction. Michael trusted these, and they betrayed Michael.
Debbie and Arnie are not to be trusted. Arnie is having a hard time keeping his dental office open during the economy. Arnie and Debbie appear to be dumb d^ggs and greedy psychos. Many people live their lives to carry out conspiracy, confederacy, and snare for harmless and gentle Michael. I would go to know them in the historical cases, legal matters, and psycho-social files. They may be cold cases of much deceit and corruption.
Reports are on in the news right now, today, as I type of people stealing babies. Who is to say what skeletons are in the closet of money schemes. With all the sadness, sorrow, sympathy, and prayer for love ones, the meat packing BUSINESS was a cover up (in the news). The guilty ones know that cover up. The conscience is an intricate part of survivaland the business.
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November 11th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Debbie Rowe claims she is being denied visitation rights. We do not know the story from the Jacksons’ side. Is it just possible that Michael’s children do not wish to have any contact (at least not yet) with their birth mother? I also thought all these arrangements were supposed to be in THEIR best interests/needs and NOT the interests/needs of Debbie (which by the sound of it appears to be the case). All sounds rather forced on the poor youngsters. If they do not yet feel ready to have meetings with her (or even want to) then she, social services, courts etc should be sensitive to THEIR feelings! Personally I would not want to have contact with someone who tried on three separate occasions to take me away from a beloved father and has in public said my father is not my biological dad. Interesting that Judge Lachs declared in 2004 that giving the children to Debbie would be detrimental in all respects. What does that tell us! Also Debbie complains about the Jacksons’ talking to the press. Why does she do likewise? According to Randy Taroborelli in 2004 she asked that her children’s passports be confiscated!!! What kind of mother is that? KEEP THEM WITH THE JACKSONS! I understand that when they are older they have the option of contacting Debbie if THEY want to. Should not be what SHE wants! As appears to be the case. Katherine has their best interests at heart I am sure.
November 13th, 2009 at 4:31 am
Debbie Rowe had the kids as a favor for Michael because she knew he wanted to be a father. She didn’t do it because she wanted to be a mother. She said if she hadn’t had these kids for Michael she wouldn’t have had any kids. So what is she up to now? Oh she changed her mind. I honestly don’t know what is going on. All I hope, all I pray is that what is best for all three of those kids is done. They have been through enough. And their welfare should be put before anyone else.
November 13th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Debbie leave the kids alone….I think they are the ones who dont want to see you….and I dont blame them one bit….you sold them out a long time ago….leave them be! Enough chaos!
Of course the kids are multi-millionaires…….like MJ said “Anything for Money”…
November 14th, 2009 at 5:24 am
A Darton – you are so right about THEIR welfare being put before anyone else. Also feel that if the visitations go ahead little Blanket must be included even if he is not Debbie’s. Would be terrible to leave the poor little lad out. Maybe Prince and Paris are against the visits for this very reason. Social services and the courts must be so careful in this case. Another correspondent suggests that Blanket’s biological mum might have an interest in him. Should be about whether the child has an interest in the parent and NOT vice versa. Debbie states that she changed her mind about not wanting the youngsters several years back. This is only fair if it is okay with the children. Women who have had their kids adopted are not allowed to change their minds later on. Not fair on the youngster who has so often got a close bond with the new parent. Should be exactly the same here. Not for nothing are surrogates and mothers who give kids up for adoption advised to think very very carefully at the TIME and accept consequences of their actions including the possible outcome that the child given up might not want to know them. See it from the child’s view. If the child wants nothing to do with the birth mother then the woman should be told tough! and advised to get on with their life. After all they made an original decision. Decisions have consequences!
November 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Who did MJ leave his children to? HIS MOTHER. Does anyone in their right mind not think he knew they’d have contact with Joe? It’s none of Rowe’s business.
Who did MJ leave his estate to? His children, his mother, and charity.
MJ had few people he could trust. Clearly he felt Katerine to be the most trustworthy to make decisions about his estate and his children.
It angers me to the core that MJs wishes are not being honored. Honor the damn Will. And that a judge is allowing Rowe back into their lives. When someone gives their kids up for adoption or hands them over the CPS because they don’t want them; they aren’t allowed just to waltz back in when they choose, or dictate to the new caretakers from the sidelines. They’re still grieving the loss of their father, the only parent they ever knew. And now she wants to drop a bombshell on them, that Aunt Debbie is really Mommy? What is she thinking? What is the judge thinking?
The kids can seek her out when they desire to know who their bio mother is. Until then, she should keep her agreement and stop plotting on how she might leech more money FROM THE CHILDREN’S ESTATE. Would she even be in the picture if there wasn’t a large sum of money attached to these kids? She and Schaffel probably meet on a regular basis to plan the next extortion scheme. Disgusting. Anything, anything, anything for money.
November 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Watch the Povich rebuttal documentary. Rowe didn’t just have the children for MJ. She “begged” him to let her do that for him, as a “gift”. I don’t know what reality she lives in, but in my reality people don’t pay for gifts. A victim of unrequited love, I think she did it hoping it would change the way MJ felt about her. It didn’t. So, now it’s all about money and revenge.
There was definitely something fishy going on in Klein’s office. His nurse birthed the children, Klein “may” be the father, and if that weren’t enough; Jason- a male nurse, claimed just after MJs death that he was MJs homosexual lover. Give me a break. They’re all a bunch of Kook Leeches. Why wouldn’t the Jacksons do everything in their power to protect and keep MJs estate from vermin like this? They are far more deserving.
Who was advising MJ when he allowed Rowe to have the children? Why do the “agreements” keep changing? She never even changed a diaper. He apparently did get good advice before hiring Blanket’s mother. Or will we see her come out and demand money and visitation at some point. Will a judge be as favorable to her as they’ve been with Rowe?
Social services shouldn’t even be involved. Honor the Will. But like with everything else MJ- the rules are bent and the assumption is that he doesn’t deserve the rights and considerations given the average citizen. Exploited in life, now in death.
November 21st, 2009 at 1:45 pm
SeptSpirit says it all. Michael’s wishes SHOULD be honoured. I hear the kids are very fond of Janet (as was their late dad) and are keen to have her as their “mom” if Katherine dies. Could not think of a better person for them. I would not let Debbie Rowe near them for five minutes. Michael’s lawyers should make it very clear to Debbie that she will NOT get anything from the estate if that is what her motive is.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:27 am
“Agreed upon visitation rights”. Does this mean that Prince and Paris have no choice in the matter as regards seeing their birth mother and also were THEY in on the agreement or was it JUST between Katherine and Debbie? Could someone enlighten me on this please? Thought THEIR wishes were paramount.
December 2nd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
So, Roger – you wrote this almost a month ago and Debbie hasn’t been back to court yet that I know of. When did you say it would happen? Please update your readers on this story… Thank you.
December 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
What low life so called friend called you in the first place? That’s certainly not someone I would trust to give me advise about where the kids should be.
I don’t understand why Debbie Rowe is now in such a big rush to see the kids she sold to Michael. They are not going anywhere. She has made her position clear on why she had them. I do agree with her, she is not mother material she had them for Michael and the money he gave her. Explaining this to the children may be a bigger probelm than not seeing them. What about Blanket? who will explain to him where his mother is. What if the reason for not having visitation so far is that the kids don’t want to know her now. or…
Could it be that Debbie is still trying find a way to tap into their inheritance. After all what kid would refuse their biological mother.
I know Michael loved his kids and dedicated his life to them, but now that his life has been cut short, he may have done them a great diservice all around. I just pray the love he gave them will help them survive this circus!!
December 20th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Have in the last couple of weeks read that if Paris and Prince had been handed over to their mother just like that (or if she had won custody of them when Michael was alive – 2004,2006 and 2008) there would have been a very good chance of them developing severe clinical depression and far more likely to develop drug or alcohol problems! Food for thought. They say that kids always adjust. That is the excuse always given by mothers like Debbie Rowe. Why does’nt the grown up adjust!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Have recently read that children who have never had a relationship with their mother/father are not obliged by law to have to have visitation with the long absent parent. That is the child’s legal right to refuse. Has this case involved trampling on the rights of Prince and Paris? Maybe Katherine did not realise at the time of the agreement with Debbie that the kids were exempt from having to visit Debbie?
February 17th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Still find it utterly AMAZING that ANYONE could have considered giving Debbie custody of the kids when remembering that they have never known her!!! Cannot believe that social services were having to consider whether to send them to her or not!!! How could ANYONE consider sending children to a stranger even if she is their birth mother? Debbie’s whole attitude all along (when she tried on three occasions to have custody of them in 2004, 2006 and 2008) smacks of unbelievable callousness, insensitivity and a “could not care less” attitude towards her children. Did/has it NEVER entered her mind how distressing it would have been for them to be snatched away from Michael merely because she had “changed her mind” about not wanting them. What a way to treat vulnerable children!!! Parents who have never been in their kids lives should NOT AT ALL have the right to apply for custody of them for obvious reasons. High time the law was changed in this respect. What the poor kids must have gone through when their beloved Pa died and they did not know whether or not they were to stay with the Jacksons or be sent to a totally unknown mother!!! What a terrible wait they were put through. Should NEVER have been put in that unacceptable situation. I understand that at the time when no decision had been made that Paris was clinging to Katherine and did not want to venture too far from her grandmother. Poor little mite. I think if I had been in the same situation I too would have been clutching at my grandma!!! God bless Prince, Paris and Blanket and the Jacksons who appear to be doing a splendid job of helping the kids adjust to the loss of their beloved daddy.