Paul Haggis, the Oscar-winning writer-director whose credits include “Crash,” “Million Dollar Baby” and “Letters From Iwo Jima,” has left the Church of Scientology.
We were the first to report this on Sunday afternoon, after which many news sites helped themselves to the story.
In a stunning move, Haggis has written a letter explaining his exit to Tommy Davis, the celebrity wrangler for Scientology and the son of Scientologist actress Anne Archer. The veracity of the letter has been confirmed by a friend of Haggis.
Two things seem to have pushed the popular, amiable Haggis over the edge. One was Scientology’s backing of Proposition 8 in California banning gay marriage.
The other is more personal. It turns out that Haggis and his wife, actress Deborah Rennard, came into Scientology through her parents, of all things. But at some point, Rennard was ordered to break off from her parents and have nothing more to do with them because they’d violated some code of the sect. This heartbreaking situation has finally taken its toll.
(I always had a crush on Deborah Rennard when she played J. R. Ewing’s loyal secretary, Sly, on “Dallas.”)
Haggis is currently filming “The Next Three Days” with Russell Crowe, Liam Neeson, and another former Scientologist, Jason Beghe.
Haggis has taken an enormous step here, and one that should resonate among all celebrity Scientologists. Here’s his letter.
Tommy,
As you know, for ten months now I have been writing to ask you to make
a public statement denouncing the actions of the Church of Scientology
of San Diego. Their public sponsorship of Proposition 8, a hate-filled
legislation that succeeded in taking away the civil rights of gay and
lesbian citizens of California – rights that were granted them by the
Supreme Court of our state – shames us.
I called and wrote and implored you, as the official spokesman of
the church, to condemn their actions. I told you I could not, in good
conscience, be a member of an organization where gay-bashing was
tolerated.
In that first conversation, back at the end of October of last year,
you told me you were horrified, that you would get to the bottom of it
and “heads would roll.” You promised action. Ten months passed. No action
was forthcoming. The best you offered was a weak and carefully worded
press release, which praised the church’s human rights record and took
no responsibility. Even that, you decided not to publish.
The church’s refusal to denounce the actions of these bigots,
hypocrites and homophobes is cowardly. I can think of no other word.
Silence is consent, Tommy. I refuse to consent.
I joined the Church of Scientology thirty-five years ago. During my
twenties and early thirties I studied and received a great deal of
counseling. While I have not been an active member for many years,
I found much of what I learned to be very helpful, and I still apply
it in my daily life. I have never pretended to be the best Scientologist,
but I openly and vigorously defended the church whenever it was criticized,
as I railed against the kind of intolerance that I believed was directed
against it. I had my disagreements, but I dealt with them internally.
I saw the organization – with all its warts, growing pains and
problems – as an underdog. And I have always had a thing for underdogs.
But I reached a point several weeks ago where I no longer knew what to
think. You had allowed our name to be allied with the worst elements of
the Christian Right. In order to contain a potential “PR flap” you
allowed our sponsorship of Proposition 8 to stand. Despite all the
church’s words about promoting freedom and human rights, its name is
now in the public record alongside those who promote bigotry and
intolerance, homophobia and fear.
The fact that the Mormon Church drew all the fire, that no one noticed,
doesn’t matter. I noticed. And I felt sick. I wondered how the church
could, in good conscience, through the action of a few and then the
inaction of its leadership, support a bill that strips a group of its
civil rights.
This was my state of mind when I was online doing research and chanced
upon an interview clip with you on CNN. The interview lasted maybe ten
minutes – it was just you and the newscaster. And in it I saw you deny
the church’s policy of disconnection. You said straight-out there was no
such policy, that it did not exist.
I was shocked. We all know this policy exists. I didn’t have to search
for verification – I didn’t have to look any further than my own home.
You might recall that my wife was ordered to disconnect from her parents
because of something absolutely trivial they supposedly did twenty-five
years ago when they resigned from the church. This is a lovely retired
couple, never said a negative word about Scientology to me or anyone
else I know – hardly raving maniacs or enemies of the church. In fact
it was they who introduced my wife to Scientology.
Although it caused her terrible personal pain, my wife broke off all
contact with them. I refused to do so. I’ve never been good at following
orders, especially when I find them morally reprehensible.
For a year and a half, despite her protestations, my wife did not speak
to her parents and they had limited access to their grandchild. It was a
terrible time.
That’s not ancient history, Tommy. It was a year ago.
And you could laugh at the question as if it was a joke? You could
publicly state that it doesn’t exist?
To see you lie so easily, I am afraid I had to ask myself: what else
are you lying about?
The great majority of Scientologists I know are good people who are
genuinely interested in improving conditions on this planet and helping
others. I have to believe that if they knew what I now know, they too
would be horrified. But I know how easy it was for me to defend our
organization and dismiss our critics, without ever truly looking at what
was being said; I did it for thirty-five years. And so, after writing
this letter, I am fully aware that some of my friends may choose to no
longer associate with me, or in some cases work with me. I will always
take their calls, as I always took yours. However, I have finally come
to the conclusion that I can no longer be a part of this group. Frankly,
I had to look no further than your refusal to denounce the church’s
anti-gay stance, and the indefensible actions, and inactions, of those
who condone this behavior within the organization. I am only ashamed
that I waited this many months to act. I hereby resign my membership in
the Church of Scientology.
Sincerely,
Paul Haggis
Ps. I’ve attached our email correspondence. At some point it became
evident that you did not value my concerns about the church’s tacit
support of an amendment that violated the civil rights of so many of our
citizens. Perhaps if you had done a little more research on me, the
church’s senior management wouldn’t have dismissed those concerns quite
so cavalierly. While I am no great believer in resumes and awards, this
is what you would have discovered:
[Haggis lists his numerous awards]
The full text of the letter can be found here.






October 25th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I don’t think Hollywood afraid of Scientology anymore. I suspect Paul won’t be the last to take this brave step.
October 25th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Too few people are willing to stand up for their beliefs in today’s world. Bravo Paul Haggis.
October 25th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I wonder how long it will be before Fred Phelps becomes a Scientologist?
October 25th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
This guy is a hero, standing up to his corrupt cult. I’m glad he left, and I hope the cult doesn’t try to destroy him, like they have others who have left.
October 25th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
a world without religion is a world closer to peace
October 25th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Outstanding! Welcome back to the real world, Paul. You did the right thing.
October 25th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
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October 25th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Another blow to the Hollywood Crazies
October 25th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Haggis is a thetan-lord vessel. He only quit because they were gonna put him through a Run Program for not working Scientology into his new movie. What a sissy. All this would have been avoided had he paid the $50,000 for OT8, then he would be able to fly, pick up cars, and WILL WITH HIS MIND gay rights in California.
October 25th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
It’s a shame that Paul Haggis believes support of proposition 8 to be “gay bashing.” If instead, him and the thousands like him in California would sit down and read the theology behind those religious men and women who supported proposition 8, they would see that “gay bashing” is exactly what IT WAS NOT. I can’t speak for all who supported the proposition as I’m sure there were plenty of “bigots” among them, but to classify all religious people as such is unfortunately simple minded and utterly naive. Yes, Paul Haggis, the “intellectual liberal” in America can also be the “simpleton” he/she is so quick to call others. I suppose you should stick to making movies while the theologians search for real truths, not the pretty half-truths Hollywood demands. Of course, you’re always welcome if you ever want to discover something more real than your movie sets.
October 25th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
This is a hoax. The Church of Scientology does not make statements for or against political agendas, legislation, propositions or initiatives of any kind. Contact the Church of Scientology in San Diego with any questions.
October 25th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
I am glad that he left. This relegion is a cult just like LDS. Good luck in mending your family.
October 25th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Wow, that is the coolest thign I have ever seen!
RT
http://www.anonymous.ua.tc
October 25th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
So… He’s leaving because they’re homophobes, and not because they believe this world was populated by the ghosts of space aliens shot out of a volcano?
October 25th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
I feel much better about scientology members and the author referenced after reading this. good article
October 25th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Perhaps Mr Haggis can spend a little time examining L Ron Hubbard’s racist and colonialist stance. Though Scientology’s management is fraudulent and oppressive, those elements are written in at the doctrine’s very core. You cannot be a humanist and a Scientologist at the same time.
Mr Haggis, welcome to the world. Please spend some time examining some secular views; you might find that you can be a happier person without L Ron’s teachings.
October 25th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
I am shocked that people still take all this scientology nonsense seriously.
October 25th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
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October 25th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Wow,simply wow. I love how a guy trying to make $ starts a religion and people actual believe they are a church
October 25th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
I applaud Mr. Haggis’ stand. The policy of disconnection destroys families and he is very courageous to stand up for gay marriage. But geez, Paul, you were a Scientologist for how many years? Did you ever read Dianetics? Read below.
From a 1995 paperback edition of “Dianetics” by L. Ron Hubbard. Chapter 5, “Psychosomatic Illness” (pg. 148-149):
“The sexual pervert (and by this term Dianetics, to be brief includes… homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual-sadism, etc…) is actually quite ill physically.
… the pervert is always a very ill person in one way or another, whether he is conscious of it or not.
… but [the pervert] is also far from normal and so extremely dangerous to society that the tolerance of perversion is as thoroughly bad for society as punishment for it.
But with an effective science to handle the problem, a society which would continue to endure perversion in all its sad and sordid effects doesn’t deserve to survive.
October 25th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Wow I am stunned.. I am a former scientologist and I cant believe whats happening as I read more and more high level scientologists defecting from the church.. My gut feelings about the church are slowly being corroborated with each defection.. who’s next ? John Travolta? any Vegas bets on this??
October 25th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Hmm, I’m conflicted. I hate Scientology, but I also have no mercy for these so-called “gay rights”.
So, if you sleep with the same sex you should have rights now?? Nobody cares what I do in the bedroom and nobody should care what gay people are doing. It annoys me that there is a debate about this nonsense. Look, gays get married…..I really won’t lose sleep over it. There are more important events going on in the world right now. Still, let’s be honest, a gay couple raising a child is not up my ally. It’s difficult enough to explain to child why a man and a woman are making out in public, but 2 of the same sexes is just….too confusing for the child. Let’s not forget the teenage years; awkard, finding who you are and what you will be as a person, and learning about sex! I think a child could easily be lead down an unhealthy path in that situation. In NO WAY am I stating that the gay parents would purposly do this, but good intentions can cause harm. I wish I wasn’t concerned, but I am.
Also, movies and tv shows are making this situation out to be ok. It’s like hillywood is pushing it down our throats (no pun intended). I’m sick of it and how they are putting forced thoughts in our minds.
Anyway, this writter is a moron for even being with that group of idiots. Let’s take a look at thier track record. They made Tom Cruise crazy, pretty much killed John Travolta’s kid with bad medical advice, and oh yeah…they don’t believe in God. I wonder how they even pay for anything. You know…since U.S. currecy is posted with, “In Got we Trust”. This guy is a tool, this group is dangerous, and gay people really need to listen to our side as well.
I’m sure I will get hateful responses to this but, this IS just my opinion so be gentle.
October 25th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
It took him 35 years to realize that Scientology was a farce? Not the brightest spark in the bunch, is he?
October 25th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Kudos to Paul Haggis for his courage and integrity. And Roger, I don’t forget that your own courage and integrity in reporting about Scientology has had ramifications for your career. Thanks to you too for all your reporting over the years. The truth is coming out and it really is setting people free.
http://www.truthrundown.org (for much more about the abuses taking place in scientology – and video interviews with former senior scientologists)
October 25th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
I don’t know if this is off-topic but a certain black president also said he was pro-prop 8. I always knew that guy was bigot…
I’ve always assumed the above was true of Scientology, didn’t have to discover it 35 years later. Also it seems strangely similar to a religion in the book “Stranger in a Strange Land” (by Heinlein). Coincidence I’m sure…
October 25th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Mr. Haggis, I applaud you for breaking away from the FREAKS! I believe Scientologist’s and their dumbfound beliefs should be put to hell! Who do they think they are trying to run Hollywood and converting Hollywood celebrities to their non- existent religion. They should go to hell and burn…..ALL BURN TO HELL!!!!
October 25th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
@ Jen
I’m slightly confused. Did you actually read the article before launching into your sanctimonious lecture ?
It’s incredibly irritating when someone instructs and advises you to do something you’ve already done.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Hear Hear, well said.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
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October 25th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Paul – Welcome back to the real world. I sincerely hope that you can convince your wife to reunite with her family.
All Western and Middle Eastern religion promotes separatism, violence and hatred.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
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October 26th, 2009 at 12:00 am
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October 26th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Bravo to Paul Haggis for leaving an absuive cult run by psychotics. If you doubt for a second Mr. Haggis did the wrong thing, please look into Operation Snow White
The largest infiltration of the Federal Government by a private interest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_snow_white
And then what their malpractice did to a poor woman named Lisa Mcpherson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_McPherson
And the lengths they will go to silence critics, including attempted murder and framing someone for terrorism.
In addition, L Ron Hubbard was never a great man. He was a despicable huxter, and a huge racist as Jen has stated. Scientology’s current leadership is run by complete psychopaths.
Watch this and if your skin doesn’t crawl you are far too numb to Godwin’s Law.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI1QHnQdi1c
October 26th, 2009 at 1:17 am
In the course of history, many people who have had mental disorder like scitsophrenia have been respected as being close to god(s) or even gods themselves. You never know, maybe there is in some cases even some truth to that – but that does not mean that one should believe anything coming from the mouth of such a person is “words from god”. God gave us brains. We should use them and have some selfcritic, to evaluate what we choose to believe in and what not.
October 26th, 2009 at 2:02 am
I suggest anyone daring to hear the truth behind Dianetics/Scientology read the fine book “Bare-Faced Messiah” by Russell Miller.
An excellent, eye-opening tome…
October 26th, 2009 at 3:40 am
A hate filled bigot who hates regular people railing against bigots? Only a left wing nut could NOT see the irony.
October 26th, 2009 at 4:16 am
“We were the first to report this on Sunday afternoon, after which many news sites helped themselves to the story.”
no you were not, 3 or 4 ex scientologist blogs were the first, that was reported on whyweprotest.net and then you lifted it of whyweprotest.
October 26th, 2009 at 4:56 am
Paul, you were a dip then, you’re still a fool now…
How easy it was for you to maintain membership in your “Church” when it was convenient…I guess you never understood that good can also come from evil…. Scientology is no different than any other religion, but being the “new kid on the block, it would be nice it it was halted at some point. We don’t need any more sheep farms thank you.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Oh my god, I always thought that all these stories about disconnecting from family members was bigot nonsense, but hearing how Deborah Rennard had to go through this.. the way Scientology lied about this in the media (On CNN!) really makes me enraged. You are correct, Haggis – this does make me wonder what else they are lying to us about.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Nice going and kudos to Paul! Stand behind your beliefs or you don’t have them. I applaud this and am proud to have read it.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:27 am
Good for him! Having been with his religion as long as he was, I’m sure that took a lot of nerve and his issues with the “Church” had clearly been brewing for quite some time.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:35 am
I am sure that this was very hard for Mr. Haggis to do. To leave a group that you believed in and invested time, energy and yor family in for so many years is a tremendous act. I hope it brings him some peace.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:43 am
Just read the banned book by Ron L. Hubbard Jr. written in the 80’s. I asked EVERY Scientologist I ran into at various fairs and expo’s and NOT ONE had even heard about the book. Jr. had to hide for years for ‘fessing up to the con his father put forth. He finally came in from the cold by signing a ‘I made it all up’ statement for the lawyers of Scientology. The very BEST THING you can do relative to Scientology is simply this – RUN! Why? Let ‘Jr.’ tell you in his own words:
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
October 26th, 2009 at 5:45 am
When you converse with Christian’s upset about their religion do you also mention the racist, sexist, and homophobic context of the bible (it’s there)? Does that mean you cannot be a humanist and a Christian? He stood up for what he believed in, you don’t have to be an elitist ass about everything.
Good job Mr. Higgins, you have my respect.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:50 am
He’s luck to have gotten out alive and of sound mind.
R.I.P. Paul Mace & Judy Johnson etc
October 26th, 2009 at 6:20 am
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October 26th, 2009 at 6:25 am
[...] director Paul Haggis has left the Church of Scientology after being fed up with the church’s support of California’s [...]
October 26th, 2009 at 6:38 am
COngratulations, Mr. Haggis. Do not punish yourself for having waited too long to do this. It’s a bold move and you should be proud of having the strength to stand up for your convictions, however long it took. Perhaps your move with strengthen the will of other members too afraid to take a stand.
Please know that you are not alone.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:38 am
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October 26th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Good for him. The disconnection policy is sick, and I had no idea the “church” supported Prop 8.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:45 am
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October 26th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Paul- I agree with Jen’s comment above.
L Ron was just as nutty as Joseph Smith, welcome to the free world!
I applaud your letter to CoS and will support you!
October 26th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Wrong Jen,
You have to differentiate between Church of Scientology (CoS) and the philosophy. It’s true that there have been some anti-homosexual writings from Hubbard, but he later discarded them all. At that time, in the 50’s-60’s, homosexuality was also rather controversal.
Quite a few Scientologists have left the CoS just recently but still consider themselves Scientologists. This is mainly due to David Miscavige and his tough leadership style.
There are many great humaniatarians within Scietnology, but it’s harder to be one when the CoS as of today does not function on an optimum level.
Attack the right subject.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:49 am
People often say that the difference between a cult and a religion is the number of members. They’re wrong. Cults require members to estrange their families for trivial reasons, religions do not. Beware of anyone who enters your life and tells you who you can and cannot have relationships with.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:04 am
[...] for Haggis and Davis could not immediately be reached for comment; The Hollywood Reporter has reportedly confirmed with “a friend of Haggis” that the letter is real. Read the whole [...]
October 26th, 2009 at 7:07 am
[...] director Paul Haggis has left the Church of Scientology after being fed up with the church’s support of California’s [...]
October 26th, 2009 at 7:09 am
I find it a bit coincidental that L. Ron was both a science fiction author and also created a religion full of such wild ideas. Galactic ruler, indeed.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:13 am
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October 26th, 2009 at 7:28 am
To Mr. Haggis’ credit, being part of Scientology is a great way to network a career. Ultimately, you sell your soul to the devil and when it’s time to collect — you realize your dilemma.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:29 am
You were NOT the first. This letter was published at http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/ It was posted over a period of time, starting in mid October.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Kudos and much strength of convictions…Mr Haggis
October 26th, 2009 at 7:47 am
[...] director Paul Haggis has left the Church of Scientology after being fed up with the church’s support of California’s [...]
October 26th, 2009 at 7:49 am
[...] director Paul Haggis has left the Church of Scientology after being fed up with the church’s support of California’s [...]
October 26th, 2009 at 8:02 am
[...] director Paul Haggis has left the Church of Scientology after being fed up with the church’s support of California’s [...]
October 26th, 2009 at 8:19 am
This story is nonsense wanna-be journalism in which the ever-mistaken, long-time Scientology-hating gosipista Roger Friedman once again works his clumsy trade. To any knowledgeable Scientologist, his piece is beyond dopey.
Let’s get this straight, once and for all: The Church of Scientology takes ZEERO political stands on anything—left, right, center—nothing, nada.
If—and I mean *IF*—some prejudiced Scientologist actually did come out with any political anti-gay rhetoric–AND THEN ascribed it to the Church proper–s/he was in excruciating violation of church policy on political neutrality.
Further, ALL the Scientologists with whom I discussed PROP 8 were voting AGAINST it, or working to defeat it—myself included.
So the only anti-anything campaign evident here is Roger Friedman’s decades-long trudging hate-march against Scientology. Roger, get a hobby.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Now that Mr. Haggis has so eloquently departed the cult of $cientology, perhaps his family can be reconnected with his in-laws. Just in time for his wife’s 50th birthday. Happy birthday, Deborah, on November 4th. May all disconnected families soon experience a truly, happy day of reconnection and freedom from Co$’s con and tyranny.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:38 am
what a loser. this is just a politically convenient way to get out for him. he just casually mentions the disconnection policy like it was a minor annoyance. yeah, that whole “can’t see their grandkids thing, that sucked, but the REAL issue here is our stance on teh gays!”
talk about missing the forest for the trees.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:04 am
As with anyone when their marriage with religion comes to an end, and they come to terms with the fact that growing up means leaving the womb and standing on your own two feet, and taking your life and immortality into your own hands, there is that terrible first cry….
“Our discontent begins by finding false villians we can accuse of deceiving us. Next we find false heroes whom we expect to liberate us. The hardest, most discomforting discovery is that each of us must emancipate himself.”
Daniel J. Boorstin
Welcome to EARTH Paul!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Wow. I guess under his logic all Christians should leave Christianity and all Mormons should leave the Mormon Church as they were for Prop. 8. Sounds like he lost it and also sounds like he has not been practicing Scientology for a while. I saw him once and he was smoking & cursing the whole time.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:21 am
“I refused to do so. I’ve never been good at following
orders, especially when I find them morally reprehensible.”
Jesus, get over yourself, buddy.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Now where’s our letter of apology for releasing Crash?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:43 am
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October 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am
whats weird about scientologists is that they all explain their beliefs as “wanting to help the world/others.” Do they realize they can do that without going to a racist, crazy, blood-sucking cult to do so?
They never talk about wanting to expel the souls of dead aliens, so i’m guessing they don’t really care about that too much.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Well, this is another odd story connected to the Church of Scientology. I couldn’t remember any news story, blog or anything talking about Scientology’s support of Prop 8. So as Google is our friend I did a search for Scientology and Prop 8 minusing Haggis and Crash and sure enough I couldn’t find anything from the time or any news story afterward connecting Scientology and Prop 8. I couldn’t find really anything showing that Scientology ever sponsored any legislation unless it had to do with “mental health”. Looks like more revisionist history.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Support Prop 8 is equal to “promote bigotry and
intolerance, homophobia and fear.” How can anyone support Prop 8? All my Hollywood friends are against Prop 8.
Have you seat with someone who support Prop 8?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:05 am
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October 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Better yet, please spend some time examining some mainstream religious views. You might find you would be a happier person with God and a concrete value system, rather than your own personal feelings, to guide you through the day. And a happier person wouldn’t level so much ad-hominem vitriol at those who disagree with him.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Cant brainwash common sense.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Mr. Haggis, All those words poured out about Prop 8, and only a measly paragraph regarding your family’s personal stress? Hollywood stereotype reinforced.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:25 am
ps. Mr. haggis…what do your credits have to do with the issue at hand? Do you think they make you more valuable to Scientology…maybe their of value just to you…everyone out here has credits.who cares… On what was an exceptional letter you muddied the waters with turning the focus to “ME”,the place where most everyone in the entertainment spends all their time.Your right with them.get over yourserlf.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am
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October 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am
[...] With past credits including such box-office goldmines such as ‘Crash’ and 2005’s ‘Million Dollar Baby,’ which was helmed by Clint Eastwood, the 56-year old Canadian writer/director has broken all ties with the iconic church through a withering email now republished in full by Showbiz 411. [...]
October 26th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Kudos!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am
your all dumb, scientology is crap
October 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am
After getting to know them, neither France nor Germany wants anything to do with the so-called “Church” of Scientology. Neither nation believes this “Church” has ANY relationship with anything spiritual or religious.
The founder, L. Ron Hubbard, was mediocre at best as a Sci-Fi author and the fact that he was hostage to very out-of-date ideas should be seen as the indication of an inferior intellect, not to mention a hate-filled soul.
Why this abomination continues to enjoy special legal status as a “Church” is a commentary about the abysmally poor quality of America’s lawmakers in actually enacting legislation that in some way serves the populace.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Doing this he may have to fear for his life
October 26th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Well done, Mr. Haggis. Scientology ruins lives, and your children will be better off away from them. Cross your fingers and hope they disconnect from you!
October 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Good for Paul Haggis for his conscience being stronger than his brainwashing.
Why is it all religions hate gays anyway? It leads to their own self-destruction because so many people are gay, and thus related to–or friend with–religious people and people are generally civil and realize that they don’t want to be part of a bigoted organization; so they quit…and rightfully so.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Mr Haggis, I would think with all your money and eduction you would not stop your children from there grandparents over as you yourself said over something so trivial. Did it mean that much to you and your wife to be in this group. Frankly I think scientologists are a little strange and are people with so much money and nothing better to do with themselves so they join this group. I was raised RC and everyone has heard all about them. I don’t believe in homosexuality BUT I do believe in there right to live there lifes the way they wish.I am not homophobe maybe I just don’t understand why. I have friends and relatives who are homosexual and it doesn’t change the way I feel. Mind you they are very nice people But we have a right to voice how we feel. We are told we are being racist which is not true. But I am more upset that you would do this to grandparents and not even think for yourself the damage you may have done to your children.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
It appears the full length letter location (http://www.scientology-cult.com/declarations-of-independence/59-paul-haggis/158-paul-haggis-resigns-from-church-of-scientology.html) has been hacked and the server is down.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
How ironic that in explaining Scientology is bigoted against gays, Haggis then clearly shows his out and out hatred and bigotry towards Christians. Never mind Christians are the majority in this country. Perhaps Mr. Haggis should realize he himself is a bigot.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I think Haggis would be pandering if all of this were true.
Without a smoking gun though, its just a great bit of fun.
Gay marriage?
Get over it.
Then of course The Christian Right could be upset about gay marriage for the same reason that Haggis could be annoyed with his Church.
The difference is freedom of association. Hetrosexual married couples have no genuine option to just quit their marriages in protest – you know? Like Haggis who can quit his Curch?
But then I guess there is no real deffinition of civil rights.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Eh ben ! Ca lui en a pris du temps à redescendre sur terre !
Thirty five years before opening your eyes !!! Luckily enought, it takes you less time to make a movie !
October 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Hey Tommy.
You will start seeing me in your dreams. Heh. Probably already do.
October 26th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
How do you figure this was exclusive?
October 26th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
I really don’t know what Cruise is doing in there!
October 26th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Dear Mr. Haggis:
I am very happy to hear of your decision. I am sorry for the fact that the issues which drove you to it were so personally disturbing. I welcome you to my world, a world where all I ask is that you exercise your rights while being mindful of your responsibilities. By the content of your admirable letter to Mr. Davis, it sounds as though you’ve been living that way all along; as an active citizen whose mind is imbued with the insight of a strong critical thinker.
October 26th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Bravo, Paul! It takes courage in this town to stand up publicly for anything, let alone against this powerful and capricious cult.
Better late than never…who’s next?
Any guesses?
October 26th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
although we dont know each other personally, Paul, we have met professionally. I applaud you, not because I want to bash Scientology, but because he put your private life, your family, and your morals before your church. More people should examine what exactly they are following, and question what their church is preaching, not just scientologists. I myself could not be part of any organization that had less than equal and humane viewpoints for all individuals. You are now a hero in my eyes. Bravo
October 26th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
he needed 3 decades to find out that scientology’s anti-gay? i thought dianetics is the first book they read!
page 120: “The sexual pervert (and by this term Dianetics, to be brief, includes any and all forms of deviation in Dynamic II [i.e. sexuality] such as homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual sadism, etc., and all down the catalog of Ellis and Krafft-Ebing) is actually quite ill physically… he is very far from culpable for his condition, but he is also far from normal and extremely dangerous to society…”
October 26th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Or as Kathy Griffin would say, “Suck it Xenu.”
October 26th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Thank goodness someone came to their senses. So you think it’s bad the church sided with the anti-gay stance — how about it telling a child to “disassociate” with her elderly parents?! Pleaseeeeeee.
And you all consider yourselves intelligent? This org, with it’s liar Ron (was NOT the youngest Eagle Scout nor did his Naval Service reflect any combat as his false resume infers)as its head — that after paying THOUSANDS of dollars, we find out at the highest level of “Clear,” when you’re allowed to read the “scriptures” of this church, you find out about being from outer space are part of its belief system? Come one, folks, he was a Science FICTION writer.
Also, don’t you think that doing “counseling” with UNlicensed “counselors” using V-8 juice cans tied electronically to an “e-meter” board (yes, I know that the V8 cans that I personally observed once being used at the Washington “home” Church have not been upgraded to more modern-looking devices, it’s still the same mumbo-jumbo pseudoscience that believes one has to pay…to have a fellow “church” member “read” what my vibes are coming across the wires from the juice cans (they’re really more of a psychological group/cult that uses “religion” as a guise to avoid paying IRS taxes based on what I’ve read
October 26th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Thank-You Mr. Haggis! I hope that many more celebs involved with the Church of Scientology take a closer look at what is really happening within that organization and follow your example. A close inspection will find instances of forced abortions and divorces, false imprisonment, exploitation of staff, some of whom work 100+ hours/week for 50 cents an hour! And there is much more. I encourage you to read Nancy Many’s new book that just came out “My Billion Year Contract”. I’m sure that some of you know her as she is a past executive at Celebrity Center. Read Marc Headley’s (formerly of Golden Era Productions) book coming out in the next couple weeks. Go to the Ex-Scientologist Message Board and read hundreds of horror stories from former staff. Google the “Truth Rundown” and do it as a free service.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
As a fan of good science fiction, I first investigated some of Ron Hubbard’s books way back in the ’70s. I remember standing in a small bookstore thumbing through one of several paperbacks. By pure chance, I came across a section espousing some extremely negative and condemnatory views of homosexuality. I did not purchase or read any of Hubbard’s work after that. Perhaps he’s changed his views by now. In any event, I would think that members of his “church” would be better informed on that issue.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
While it is commendable that Mr. Haggis has chosen to leave a community rife with bigotry and dishonesty, I find his finger-pointing a bit disingenuous. This letter drips with insecurity to me. It reads as though Mr. Haggis is deeply ashamed to realize that he has been bamboozled but hasn’t yet found the courage to look into the mirror and to ask why he fell for it. The fact is that there will always be people who have a special talent for leading “the sheep” to the “flock,” so to speak. The sheep, once they realize what has happened, are perfectly happy to blame those people for manipulating them, but never once turn the blame on themselves. Thus, they never truly escape the urge to follow and remain just as vulnerable to the next snake-oil salesman.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Sorry, I can’t resist one further comment on Haggis’ conclusions…. DUH!
October 26th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
The so-called “Church” of Scientology, has long been a disgrace. They hide between religion in an effort to keep their money scam/mind control going. For as long as their are weak-minded people out there, Scientology will continue to exist and destroy families everywhere.
I agree with Mr. Haggis, that while the Mormon Church got pummeled for sponsoring Prop 8, Scientology got away with everything they did to help the Proposition pass. And NO ONE in Hollywood said a single word! Is Scientology that powerful?
When you look at the mentality of celebrities like Tom Cruise, John Travolta and their wives, it is no wonder how this cult continues to prosper. Aside from their celebrity membership, regular people who are unfortunate enough to become a part of this cult, are treated as drones — performing menial tasks, and also being told that they must go out and “recruit” new members into the fold.
Scientology seeks out the weak-minded, and the gullible to continue to keep the cash rolling in. I personally know one woman who lost more than $200,000 to Scientology — paying for so-called “self-improvement” courses.
After being left destitute, and with no place to live, she sought out the assistance of the “Church.” They promptly sent her on her way, saying that they had no means to assist her.
In short, once her money was gone, they had no more use for her.
This is what Scientology does. It seeks out the gullible and destroys them. It separates and destroys families. And it persecutes anyone who wants to leave, is homosexual, or comes after them.
Congratulations to Mr. Haggis and Ms. Rennard – I hope that they can heal their family and have a happy future away from the clutches of this revolting cult.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
[...] story was first reported in the Hollywood Reporter, but has since been picked up on blogs across the Web. The Reporter comments that Haggis has taken [...]
October 26th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Good for Mr. Haggis! Scientology scares me silly, and i live more then 3,000 miles from Hollywood. I once shared a cross-country train trip with a young lady who was escaping from her position in the hierarchy of the Church of Scientology. She had to take the train so she could pay in cash and not leave a paper trail. She was returning from California back to her parents’ home in Virginia, taking a low-paying job as a computer operator on the night shift, so as to protect her anonymity. She, too, after working for the Church for 9 years, for almost all of her twenties, was told that she would be shunned if she left, pursued legally and personally, as she was too high up in the SeaOrg to just walk out. She was told that she owed over $170,000 for “therapy”, even though she had worked for the church 16 hours a day, seven days a week for almost ten years, for free, first as a recruiter, then gradually rising through the ranks of the SeaOrg, the paramilitary component of the Church. When she left, she had to flee under cover of night after calling her parents from a pay phone to get cash wired to her. She was a lieutenant general in the Church, and told me, for example, how long L. Ron Hubbard had been dead before his demise was revealed to the general public (a little over 2 years), and where his body was actually buried.
It’s difficult to believe that once some of these celebrities (Will Smith, Kirstie Alley), saw the treatment of the low-level recruits, their deplorable housing conditions, the lack of food, the way they are cut off from contact with the outside world and worked like slaves for years at a time, would be willing to continue their promotion of the church. Yeep! This is a a scary, powerful cult! And my family are descended from Mormons!
This is how the Church works: think of it like a grapefruit. The thin yellow outer rind is the religious and celebrity component — publicity, charitable organizations, buildings. The thick white pith is the Ponzi scheme, where tens of thousands of people are gradually defrauded into paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for religious instruction and church-directed “therapy”, where their labor is coerced from them, their property is absorbed, all for promises of greater revelations from these sacred and secret scriptures which have only recently been made public. But the fruit of the grapefruit, the lion’s share of the mass, is composed of the SeaOrg, a paramilitary operation with a standard military hierarchy that runs the church, sets al of its policies, and whose mission is to protect the church’s assets and secrets however it is necessary. It’s a very weird thing, and very scary….
October 26th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Ummm…If you replace the word “Scientology” with any of the other religions, it would still have the same effect. in-ter-esting….
October 27th, 2009 at 9:00 am
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October 27th, 2009 at 9:16 am
[...] story was first reported in the Hollywood Reporter, but has since been picked up on blogs across the Web. The Reporter comments that Haggis has taken [...]
October 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
[...] and civil liberties work, Haggis (”Million Dollar Baby,” “Crash”) was stunned when the San Diego branch of Scientology supported Proposition 8, the state amendment that [...]
October 27th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
I had the great privilege of living with Kirstie Alley and then husband Parker Stevenson for about a year..I never fully understood what Scientology was..except that it seemed to help Kirstie with her life..all the people I met from the church were pleasant..
As years went by, I couldn’t understand why Kirstie would go away for months at a time to do a course..the self help part of scientology seemed to make some sense (basically an auditor was like a therapist)..but once you got into the religious aspect of it..CRAZY!! Of course I think that christians who believe that woman was created from a rib are a little tweaked myself..and don’t even get me started on the mormons..
Anybody or any institution that practices bigotry on any level is not cool..and good on Paul Haggis for finally drawing his line in the sand..
October 27th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
So, Mr. Haggis had enough because his “church” actually came out in support of marriage. Of course Haggis thought it was “gay bashing” but, hey, how can anyone trust his judgment to begin with. After all, he did spend thirty-five years in the “Church” of Scientology.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Certain points of view are not publicised by the church of Scientology but can easily be found on the web and in other places. Mr Haggis could have delved and found these long ago had he not been blinkered by the fear that the church instils into those who dare to question, to delve. In books and on tapes that were once readily available and so still in the possession of long time scientologists and former members alike are the very clear positions taken by the founder L Ron Hubbard. Not only was Hubbard anti gay, but anti Islam, anti Christian and anti black. Introductory literature says that anyone from any faith can join with no conflict which shows incredible hypocrisy. The scientologists can play down or even deny these things (many are simply unaware) but the content of these books and tapes still stand. Will we now see an exodus from Scientology of gays and blacks and those sympathetic to Islam and Christianity?
October 29th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
I have a very dear friend that was forced to “not be gay” in order to maintain his status as a Scientologist. He finally had to give up, and leave the Church because he couldn’t stand living like that any more.
Anyone saying they are pro-gay is a Scientologist with an agenda, and a lying Scientologist at that.
October 31st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
[...] whose credits include “Crash,” “Million Dollar Baby” and “Letters From Iwo Jima,” has left the Church. Let’s hope more of those nutty celebrities will regain their [...]
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 am
[...] Scientologist (see, that’s at least funny. Did you know Scientologists hate gay people? That’s why the guy who directed Crash left their flock.) is one of prioritizing style over substance to a harmful degree. Now, I’m not saying that [...]
November 7th, 2009 at 8:15 am
HisNoodly asked:
“Now here’s an idea: if you have to believe this ludicrous shit, but don’t want to play with the evil bastards making money off it, why not reverse-engineer an open-source version?”
It has already happened. The cult founder Lafayette Ronald Hubbert complained bitterly about it and called those copiers “squirrels”. Any time you hear Scientologists calling somebody a squirrel, it means that he is taking some of the high-falutin’ “LRH tech” and using/selling it outside of the organization — basically in competition with the Scientology corporation.
Do a Google search on this list of terms to get details:
Scientology squirrels “LRH tech”
November 20th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
LOL to the below comment I reposted, it is so true! I don’t know how people can follow a religion created by a science fiction writer. The whole thing is ridiculous.
A-Ron Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
So… He’s leaving because they’re homophobes, and not because they believe this world was populated by the ghosts of space aliens shot out of a volcano
December 6th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Paul Haggis is a Bigot himself.Most people that voted for prop 8 are saying marriage should be between a man and a women,not that gay people should not have any union. He like most of the Bigots in hollywood have bent mentalities.
I will make sure I don’t go to any of his movies now that I can see what type of Bigot he is.
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