Michelle Phillips, the ex-wife of the late John Phillips, says her stepdaughter Mackenzie Phillips is lying about having an incestuous affair with her father.
I spoke to Michelle this morning by phone; she has not read Mackenzie’s book, published today, called “High on Arrival.” Michelle Phillips says that in 1997, Mackenzie told everyone in their extended family that she and her father, Michelle’s famous former husband, had had a sexual relationship.
“She told me, then she called me back and said, ‘You know I’m joking,’ ” Michelle told me. “I said it wasn’t funny. Mackenzie said, ‘I guess we have different senses of humor.’ ”
Michelle and John Phillips were the foundation of the great ’60s singing group the Mamas and the Papas, along with Cass Elliott and Denny Doherty. Their repertoire of sunny hits included “Calfornia Dreamin’,” “Monday Monday,” and “I Saw Her Again Last Night.” Mackenzie and her brother were born before the group formed, and before Michelle and John were married. Their brief marriage ended in 1968, with Michelle — a beauty — going on to several well-publicized romances and a successful acting career. John’s career, however, had no traction after the Mamas and the Papas, and his life devolved into a drug-fueled catastrophe.
Mackenzie alleges in her book that she and John had sex for the first time when she was 19, on the eve of her own first marriage. Four years later, she writes, they had a full-blown affair.
Mackenzie writes: “My father abused me but he wasn’t a monster. He was a tortured man who led a tortured existence.” She adds that she waited until now to admit this because she didn’t want to wreck his legacy.
Michelle Phillips responded, when I read her that: “She’s really protecting his legacy now, isn’t she?”
It’s not like Michelle Phillips hasn’t been critical of John in the past. She told me: “John was a bad parent, and a drug addict. But [expletive deleted] his daughter? If she thinks it’s true, why isn’t she with a good psychiatrist on a couch? I think it’s unconscionable that Oprah would let her do her show. I have every reason to believe it’s untrue. Oprah should be more judicious about who she has on her show.”
Michelle added: “Mackenzie has a lot of mental illness. She’s had a needle stuck up her arm for 35 years. She was arrested for heroin and coke just recently. She did ‘Celebrity Rehab’ and now she writes a book. The whole thing is timed.” Michelle said it’s particularly ironic since her own daughter, Chynna, of Wilson Phillips fame, Mackenzie’s half sister, is releasing a new album this week.
“Mackenzie is jealous of her siblings, who have accomplished a lot and did not become drug addicts.”






September 23rd, 2009 at 9:50 am
[...] Phillips told Roger Friedman of Showbiz 411 that she believes Mackenzie Phillips is lying about the alleged sexual relationship with John [...]
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:47 am
Michelle Phillips spent her early years as an adulterous slut, and is now trashing her stepdaughter to preserve the legacy of a man she also dishonored & trashed to make a buck? She should crawl back under the rock she & John Phillips called home for so many years. I applaud Mackenzie’s courage.
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I was waiting for the inevitable denial from Michelle Phillips. It’s Michelle who is sick and needs to get to a psychiatrist right now.
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
You know when you’re broke, you do desperate things. Mackenzie probably needs money and the book publisher offered her money if she had something salacious to write….that’s the way it goes, otherwise she couldn’t sell the book.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I doubt she’s lying. I mean, I don’t see why she would admit that it eventually became a consensual Relationship.
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Shame on Oprah for putting this out there for a ratings grab. This trash belongs on CNN.
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Well what the heck do you expect for her to admit it. I have a friend who was molested by her dad for years and was caught by her stepmom who then blame her a young child for what her dad did to her. She then denied that it ever happened, to the child’s grandmother and labelled her an habitual liar. Do you know what kind of damage that does to a child? And no she has never seen a psychiatrist either like many other that I know of who has had that experience, some are by choice and some are because they cannot afford it. You are all idiots, at least those who are siding with a woman who is obviously in denial.
Go to lawyers who deal with sex crimes cases and they will tell you how many women take up for an abuser. Go to psychiatrist who handle these cases and question them about this. She is just trying to save his name in the press, but a child who is molested and for so long would not lie about something like that … I cannot believe you would put this crap on your site. Whether her come out is timed or not … the shit did happen. Stop going out there and taking sides on an issue that you are unfamiliar about. The only problem I have with this is that some things need to remain in close proximity without the spotlight and by spotlight I mean media attention. You must be a child molester that is why you are taking the side of a blind woman. You are a f…ing IDIOT ROGER and you just prove this to me today.
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I don’t believe her. The reason is what person goes on national television to announce something like this? It’s not adding up. She ha been unstable for years and everyone knows sex sells.
She has shown by her actions that she will debase herself even further than she already has. I wouldn’t be surprised if she is still on drugs.
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Michelle came to hate John over the years so for her to defend him says a lot about this garbage McKenzie is saying. Oprah will do anything for ratings. She doesn’t care what’s true or not. Does anyone remember the book scandal, “A Million Little Pieces”?
Oprah’s ratings have fallen so she will have any nut on her show to get attention.
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
I do believe that silence and therapy would have been the better option,but maybe she felt she needed to realease it to let go of the pain.True or not it is mentally unstable ither way to have had it done to her or lie about it being done to her.But For Michelle Phillips who has obviously had her own problems and lasps of judgements over the years to say such cruel things about her own stepdaughter shows me she isnt wrapped too tight ither.Sounds to me like the whole family has issues;not just one.How about we just pray for all of them to heal and get the help they need.GOD Bless.
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Chynna Phillips has said it was true…she would know the truth. I’m sure this is tough on McKenzie, imagine harboring this secret. I’m sure her healing requires her to let out the truth and admit it. Regardless, it’s heartbreaking.
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I’ve lost all respect for Michelle. I thought she was a feminist with her head on straight. How dare she denigrate these very difficult admissions. Even Chynna backs up Mack. Mack is a survivor. Michelle is pond scum. And Roger is an arse for printing this.
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Michelle Phillips – you’re only looking out for yourself and your own, as well as your former husband’s, legacies. Calling Mackenzie a liar who can’t be trusted because of her emotional and drug problems is self-serving and gross. You married this monstrous man. Best keep quiet now when all of his skeletons are marching out of the closet. You should have protected Mackenzie when you had the chance – undoubtedly you must have been witness to his neglectful and abusive parenting while you were in the band with him during all those years. You didn’t do anything then, you should shut up now.
September 23rd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
[...] after the interview aired, Michelle Phillips spoke to Showbiz411’s Roger Friedman and said Mackenzie is telling lies to sell copies of her book. Hurry, brings out [...]
September 23rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
[...] a 10-year long incestuous affair with her father, stepmom Michelle Phillips, is speaking out to dismiss her [...]
September 23rd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I believe her. As a victim of a sexual assault myself by a family member when I was in my teens and having to deal with the denial of my family members and support of the accused family member (he would never do such a thing!) is like being assaulted all over again. Shame on Michelle Phillips.
September 23rd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
What exactly was John Philips’ legacy, the one that is now all ruined and stuff? After 1970, I mean.
September 23rd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
[...] Do question whether or not it is true? Half-sister Chynna believes her and claims to have known about the 10-year relationship between her father and sister since 1997 but step-mom, Michelle, thinks it’s a ploy for attention. [...]
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
[...] a 10-year long incestuous affair with her father, stepmom Michelle Phillips, is speaking out to dismiss her [...]
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Michelle is delusional. Both of John’s kids with Genevieve Waite (Bijou and Tam Phillips) are recovering drug addicts. Also didn’t she start sleeping with John when she around 16 years old? I think Mackenzie’s brother and even Chynna herself had substance abuse issues.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
People are so anxious to hate this is like feeding (dead) Christians to the lions. “What is John Phillips’ legacy?” If you have to ask, you’ll never know. Confirms my suspicians about Chynna- bimbo believes it because “how could anyone say something like that if it weren’t true?” Michelle was a wild woman but not an addict like John or especially McKenzie- who’s evidently still messing with the stuff. This is too bizarre- and even if true- tasteless and exploitive. But this doesn’t ring true to me. And she should’ve brought it up when he was alive. I doubt she’s healthy and sane now.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Hey Roger….Are you sure she said Mackenzie should be lying on a psychiatrists couch?? Michelle being a Scientologist and Mackenzie a family member, that would be really off-base. I’m glad she got help at rehab to a point where she could conront these things and work it out with her family. Good going!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I’m with Michelle on this one. Mac has had too many times to get sober. Now she’s trashig her dead father – he can’t defend himself now, can he? – for money and 2 seconds of acknowledgement.
I’ve know victims of sex crimes myself, and *none* of them boasted how much they were victims to complete strangers.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
[...] a 10-year long incestuous affair with her father, stepmom Michelle Phillips, is speaking out to dismiss her claims! The ex-wife of the late John Phillips claims that Mackenzie told everyone in their [...]
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Nicole: If Chynna says it’s true, then it must be true. But I have a problem with someone starting an affair with the father at 19 and carrying on for 10 years; don’t you? Something is not screwed too tight.
And she looks a wreck, and she looks like she’s broke.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
oprah is desperate for ratings,
she will do whatever it takes
and if that means a return to her former “jerry springer” days
so be it. . .
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
I believe Mackenzie. Why would she lie about something so horrible and embarrassing? Mackenzie was born into a family filled with dysfunction – she didn’t have much of a chance in life. Really the only two people who know whether it is true or not — is Mackenzie and John Phillips.. How would Michelle know if she’s lying or not? I think it is pretty cruel for her to rip into Mackenzie like this.. because what if it is true? (which I believe it is).
I don’t agree with those who said she should have kept it a secret. That’s how molesters get away with the abuse.. because no one spoke up. Why should she remain silent, because the issue of incest is so taboo and shameful??
I applaud Mackenzie’s courage – she had made MANY mistakes in life, but it is never too late to fix your life.. perhaps, this is one giant first step to help her deal with her past. And maybe she will help out someone who is going through something similar to what she went through.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Now why would any of you know if these charges are true or not? All you have is your opinion, which is fine, but don’t pretend you know the facts. That said, I agree with those who ask why Oprah would have this woman on, I mean, who cares?
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
“You are a f…ing IDIOT ROGER and you just prove this to me today.”
Attacking the messenger?
It sounds like someone is taking the drug addled ramblings of this woman a little seriously. It may be true or not, but if she needed to get it off her chest she could have told a friend, or even a stranger. What would be the purpose of spreading it to the seven winds? She feels that it is important that incestuous relationships need to be addressed in a public forum? Really? She will become an advocate of consensual incestuous relationship survivors? This is apocalypse culture madness. Celebrity culture is going to destroy us all. Can we please discuss the something a little easier to swallow like Michael Jackson’s death?
Keep up the good work Roger.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Whether this story is true or not true…I imagine it will be a huge seller with our voyeur society.
Every horny old housewife can’t way to jack off to this stuff. I know I will. But I won’t buy it. I’ll peruse it at Barnes and Noble, then jack off later.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
None of us really have any idea about this one, probably even including Michelle Phillips. She sounds most annoyed that Mackenzie is bringing this up now since it will impact daughter Chyna’s publicity for her new album.
That being said, I agree that Mackenzie clearly struggles with mental illness and drug addiction so it may not be true at all. On the other hand, this relationship with dad (sexual or not) clearly contributed to her problems.
The Oprah Show’s decline is obvious in the need to resort to this type of sordid material from a questionably credible guest.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
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September 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 pm
I did watch the show and she did seem believable to me. John Phillips was always a wild man in the era of sex, drugs, and rock and roll. I wouldn’t put anything passed him.
It’s funny that no one is questioning that he gave her cocaine at age 11 and taught her how to shoot up drugs, but they don’t believe he would have sex with her. Come on.
The very reason that girls don’t tell is because they won’t be believed. I doubt that Michelle would have known about it.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:48 pm
The entire situation is sad. It is just a testament of the horrible disease of addiction. If he did do it, well, it is just terrible what drugs can make you do. If he didn’t do it and she is lying, well, it is just terrible what drugs can make you do. Oprah cannot be faulted for the interview. I watched her during the interview and she seemed very cautious and reserved, almost skeptical but supportive. I am sure Mac will be on other talk shows, and will reveal even more salacious details which only makes me more leery…I have to wonder if she inherited anything from her father’s estate, and if not, could this be a backlash? Is she broke? Does she need the money from the book sales? If she is lying, there could be many reasons for her motivation and Michelle Phillips’ conjecture of jealousy could be on point. I always have to wonder why children of stars have to release these juicy facts after the parents are dead. Her dead father can’t exactly sue her for defamation from the grave. Alas, We will never know the truth, so this is just another testimony of why we shouldn’t do or be around people who are on drugs.
September 24th, 2009 at 12:40 am
[...] a 10-year long incestuous affair with her father, stepmom Michelle Phillips, is speaking out to dismiss her [...]
September 24th, 2009 at 1:30 am
[...] Chynna’s mother, Michelle Phillips, the ex-wife John Phillips, says her stepdaughter is lying about their incestuous relationship. She says Mackenzie told the family in 1997 “She told me, then she called me back and said, ‘You know I’m joking,’ ” Michelle said. “I said it wasn’t funny. Mackenzie said, ‘I guess we have different senses of humor.’ ” She says Oprah Winfrey should have never let her do the show and added, “Mackenzie has a lot of mental illness. She’s had a needle stuck up her arm for 35 years. She was arrested for heroin and coke just recently. She did ‘Celebrity Rehab’ and now she writes a book. The whole thing is timed… Mackenzie is jealous of her siblings, who have accomplished a lot and did not become drug addicts.” [Showbiz 411] [...]
September 24th, 2009 at 1:33 am
[...] after the interview aired, Michelle Phillips spoke to Showbiz411’s Roger Friedman and said Mackenzie is telling lies to sell copies of her book. Hurry, brings out [...]
September 24th, 2009 at 3:05 am
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September 24th, 2009 at 4:08 am
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September 24th, 2009 at 5:10 am
I knew John and Michelle back in the day both in New York City and in Washington, DC. They were warm and hospitable and very much in love. I do not believe for a single moment, no matter what his other demons might have been, that John Phillips molested his daughter. MacKenzie was always troubled (and trouble). I think Oprah was wrong to give her a platform and MacKenzie needs to get herself together (again) and get a job like the rest of us. Michelle did the best she could with what she had to work with. She was a good stepmother.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:17 am
Why didn’t Michelle have custody, doesn’t that say something about her? Most mothers would fight for their child.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:49 am
Okra should be ashamed.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:56 am
[...] Bono was getting laid. Ok, it was by Cher. Wait, what? Oh, Michelle Phillips slapping on Mackenzie. And I do mean slapping, cuz’ read [...]
September 24th, 2009 at 6:14 am
I am clearly confused by a lot of the sentiment here. Why are people blaming Oprah for this saga? Because she’s done what she’s ALWAYS done: highlight controversial, women’s issues that have heretofore been swept under the rug?!?!? Such subject matter has been her platform and raison d’etre since forever – what’s up with blaming her?!?!?
Whether this story is true or not, it opens up a discussion about a sordid, dysfunctional truth that has/does occur in some American families. I applaud Oprah for being brave enough to explore it, as she’s been about all sexual abuse in the past.
But, Oprah is not clairvoyant, and she is NOT responsible for someone else’ behavior. So, if Ms. Phillips is lying about this heinous subject – which I don’t believe she is – then it’s her karma that’ll suffer, not Oprah’s.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:24 am
C’mon people…John Phillips was not someone who practiced “boundaries”. And, Michelle Phillips knows better, because she didn’t either. I believe that Michelle doesn’t want to see her royalties slide, which is why it’s convenient for her to remain in denial. But, I think underneath it all, she knows better. This unpleasant revelation just tells the world how out of control they all were.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:40 am
it is impossible to know whether what she is saying is made-up or not since she aborted the fetus that would have held the dna evidence. since her father is now dead he can not refute or confirm this relationship. the rest will all be judged by the remaining family, based on what they know of her and her father’s life. so there are sure to be people on both sides of the story.
however, it’s too bad that some people are disregarding her story because of what she looks like! the fact that she’s a recovering drug abuser child of a legend should be disregarded… not her story/accusation. i just see a problem with people judging this based on her looks.
additionally many women who are routinely abused by a parent or family member, especially sexual abuse, do after time come to a point where they think “it’s just life” and it starts to feel normal. if she was so reliant on drugs and alcohol as well as being in this relationship with her father, then it makes sense to me that it continued for such a long time before she saw how clearly awful the situation was.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:56 am
I read John Phillips biography, and he was one sick puppy, sexually and otherwise. Unless you were under the bed, you don’t know what happened so don’t judge Mackenzie. Her childhood was a trainwreck, and it’s just too creepy to think someone would sabatoge their reputation out of desperation. Women have historically not been believed in charges involving sex, so leave Mac alone. The truth will come out in time.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:04 am
[...] Mackenzie Phillips other step momma, Michelle Phillips calls Mackenzie a liar too. Incest is never a pretty word, for ex-wives to admit to. Denial rules the mind of ‘the good wife’–ShowBizBlogs [...]
September 24th, 2009 at 7:28 am
It is difficult to believe that if Mac is broke, she would go to this extent–damaging her own reputation, admitting her adult affair with dad, and putting all of the drug issues out there–it just doesn’t add up. I believe her and I think that she is right, there are a lot more women out there who have experienced this. What I found telling is that she described his attitude as one of a special superstar, can do no wrong, etc. Drugs will do devilish things to people and in the haze of addiction, it should come as not surprise that this could happen. Besides, his legacy is one of talent but also of severe drug abuse. It is a great example of what happens to people of privilege in our society.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:42 am
I am appalled by Michelle Phillips statement. SIbling Rivalry? Well, her siblings had a distinct advantage: their father didn’t f$#k them! This is exactly why people turn to drugs and self destruction – they get no support from the people who are supposed to love them. This is why victims feel shame – because people like Michelle Phillips don’t want the horror to be real, because then they’d have to face it too – where was everyone?? This is why the problem will go on – Michelle Phillips – I used to love her – and Sally in Chigago? you’re an idiot!
September 24th, 2009 at 8:25 am
With the exception of a few, most of these responses appear to have been written by a generation too young to remmeber the sixties or anyone associated with them. Many of us who tuned in to Oprah yesterday, and I believe we were many, did so to see a product of that era. McKenzie was doomed from the start and I hope that she continues on her road to recovery. Her problems stemmed from being raised by an extremely drug and sexual addicted family. Shame on Michelle for further adding to the abuse of McKenzie.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:26 am
I’m just wondering why, as an adult at 19, she couldn’t just move out or sever ties with her dad, why let this go on? It’s not like she would have been forced to be around him. I think she looks pretty rough and probably needs money desperately, hence the book.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:43 am
When you’re stoned more than not, how do you know the difference between a dream and reality. I’m sure Mackenzie THINKS she had sex with her Dad because it’s way better book material than one that says I’m responsible for my own actions and delusions from a life time on drugs, that book doesnt really sell…
September 24th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Michelle’s reaction is why victims stay silent – shame on her!
September 24th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I believe her and I feel for her.How embarrasing it must have been to say that of in front of the world.I doubt Michelle knew what was going on she was probably in her own drug induced coma. Oprah doesn’t need the ratings. She has plenty of money. God bless you Mackenzie. I admire your courage. To hell with what the family thinks. They don’t live with the pain day to day. We love you!
September 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
[...] along with her husband of eight years in The Mamas and the Papas, made a statement of her own with The Hollywood Reporter’s Roger Friedman claims Mackenzie called to tell her about the affair and then called her back to tell her it was a [...]
September 24th, 2009 at 10:19 am
NO ONE has the right to say whether or not this story is true or not true. The fact is that incest goes on every day in this world. Recently, we heard the story of the German man who imprisoned his own daughter in his basement for decades and fathered children with her! I’m sure if it had not been discovered by the police, there would have been denial after denial from the girl’s extended family as well.
The story that Mackenzie Phillips tells has the ring of truth. She and her father were locked together in a drug-fueled, co-dependent relationship. And in that environment, this is absolutely possible. For his ex-wives to come out and say that she is lying, is absolutely WRONG! And furthermore, NO ONE would look to tell a story like this for attention or publicity. If that were the case, she would have just said that her father fondled her — certainly not had sex with her.
Anyone saying that this story is not true is not being smart. We all know that incest is never revealed in the light — always in the darkness.
As a survivor of emotional abuse, I can tell you that when I first came out with the story of how my own mother emotionally abused me for decades, some of my extended family did not believe me. Then came the day that my mother “outed herself.” That led me to the peace and vindication that I enjoy today.
I wish Mackenzie Phillips all of that same peace and vindication. And I truly hope that her family decides to come out of denial and begin the healing process. To divide themselves over John Phillips’ sickness is just a waste of time — we have so little here on Earth. Why waste it in denial?
September 24th, 2009 at 10:57 am
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September 24th, 2009 at 11:25 am
It seems a bit convenient for Mackenzie that her father is dead, she can say anything and there is no way to refute it. If this dark secret was in her past why didn’t she come forward earlier. Pathetic was some companies will publish, I hope that the tripe that passes for a book never sees one penny… sadly there are also pathetic losers who will buy it.
September 24th, 2009 at 11:34 am
It’s bad enough that McKenzie was screwing around with her father when she was old enough to know better, but that she willingly carried on this sick relationship for ten years says a lot about and her father is not there to defend himself. She is broke and needs some cash, that’s understood, but at what price??? Just disgusting all around and Oprah desperation for ratings will have just about any lunatic on the show as long as it gets ratings.
September 24th, 2009 at 11:42 am
[...] “Mackenzie is jealous of her siblings, who have accomplished a lot and did not become drug addicts.” (via Showbiz 411) [...]
September 24th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Many horrendous things happen to young girls, and boys, and Just Guessing is right, they don’t tell because no one would believe. And that is what sets them in a lifelong cycle of depression, anxiety, self-torment, low self esteem, and “hello” – drug addiction and mental illness!
She has NO upside for coming out with this now, absolutely none. She could lie and say “he raped me for many years” but she actually said it became consensual – something she must have had the hardest time admitting.
Just because it seems like something you can’t believe doesn’t make it so – and just because Michelle didn’t like John doesn’t mean she wouldn’t come out against it. It’s a pity she is so malicious, but there you go – a petty woman. It makes her look bad to have been married to someone like that, during the time he was actually abusing his daughter and I think that’s what makes her mad (along with the publicity at the time of Chynna’s album). It’s a darn good thing Mackenzie’s got a good sister!
September 24th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Why would she lie? Just so her hideous family unit could vilifiy her? The reality is that incest happens. John Phillips is the one responsible in this situation. And he didn’t have a great track record for taking care of business with family members. I miss David Carradine, but I was not happy to find out that he had an on-going incestous relationship with a close family member. This stuff goes on with the famous and the not famous. In Carradine’s case, his own mother tried to molest him as a child. G-d only knows why John Phillips would think it was okay to touch his kid. As for the book. I’ve read excerpts….it’s horribly written and will fade out. What’s more important, is that if this happened it should be addressed. Personally, I am very sick of people paying tribute to Michael Jackson, who was a pedophile. The famous should not be exempt from what they do. Neither you nor I would be.
September 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Michelle Phillips
PUULLEEEZZ. You were droping acid right along with the rest of them, how do you know what was and what was not going on? Of course Mackenzie is not lying, and looking back on the whole thing its not a surprise at all that this incestous relationship happened. The fact is you are ashamed that you took part in that whole scene, and somehow now believe you were an innocent bystander. She deserves every penny she gets from this book. Where is your book? Surely you have some stories to tell, or has all that LSD wiped out your brain?
September 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Of course this is coming out now. Mackenzie Phillips is broke, John is dead and can’t refute anything. Honestly, they are all trash. Believe her if you want to.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
VERY Well Put!!!! Today’s water cooler talk has been ALL about 10 years worth of sex but nothing was said about, how did she put it, tying her off?? It’s almost impossible for “us” to know what really happened over those 10 years – That said, her father “dealt” her way more than drugs – he dealt her an unfair hand – it’s too bad she wasn’t strong enough to remove herself from play.
It’s funny that no one is questioning that he gave her cocaine at age 11 and taught her how to shoot up drugs, but they don’t believe he would have sex with her. Come on.
The very reason that girls don’t tell is because they won’t be believed. I doubt that Michelle would have known about it.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
im a so unbelievably disappointed in you Michelle Phillips, but not suprised! although you were too young to be a step mother of any use to Mackenzie you clearly have developed a useful technique a lot of complacent and irresponsible parents develop, DENIAL! you knew Pappa John and YOU KNEW he was capable of doing this! how dare you call Mackenzie “Jealous of her siblings” she has nothing to be jealous of, she is the more successful one given her ability to survive, raise a wonderful young man and come forward with such a hideous story it was bound to disgrace her (as if she hasnt had enough shame and humiliation!) but she did it didnt she? because she has GRACE!
Mackenzie, i hope you read this. i know a little bit about you from a mutual friend, Danny Sugerman and i am also a recovering Junkie.
i wish you nothing but the best and am PROUD of you!
Michelle, it makes me so angry because i am such a huge Mammas and the Pappas fan. my son at 2 years old knew all the words to “Dream a little Dream” and my childhood memories are of singing “Creeque Alley” and now, well now i want to throw my C.D.’s and albums away because of YOU!
September 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
[...] a quote published by Roger Friedman of Showbiz411.com, Michelle said, “Mackenzie has a lot of mental illness. She’s had a needle stuck up her [...]
September 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
As I just said on another site, I find it revolting what John Phillips did to McKenzie and have always been horrified by how McKenzie Phillips has chosen to live her life.
However, it is Michelle Phillips whom I despise.
Michelle Phillips is a despicable woman who is full of nothing but filth and hostility. John is dead, McKenzie is sick. But Michelle – she is just a cold, hard, hateful old woman. I’ve never liked that woman, and these words she is saying only solidifies my opinion that she is a horrible human being.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Poeple,
when you have been brought up by rockstars, living the hollywood life, drugs & alcohol instead of barbies and football practices, it is normal to live in a different world that we non stars lived in.
It’s not easy to come out and say, after all those years, the incest.
I have read that many victims falls in love with their father, whom they see as their lover or a husband role.
Yes, both of them needed help, but we must not judge this woman who has lived hell.
She is taking charge to talk about her heartaches to evole and to be free.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
She is soo lucky. I never had sex with my dad
September 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
She is sooo lucky, I never had sex with my daddy !!
September 24th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
It is unfair to accuse John Phillips of having sex with Mackenzie, when he is not alive to rebuke it!. This girl is sick,sick,sick!
September 24th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Michelle Phillips making remarks about someone else’s drug use?! Hello, she was the same person sleeping with both of the “Papas.” She has also admitted to heavy drug use. I think her refusal to believe Mackenzie has more to do with that fact that she was his wife. She would look pretty bad if she said she believed it, yet did nothing or knew nothing the entire marriage. The jealousy and attention comments show are lame. She sure didn’t waste any time refuting the claims! She needs to keep her trap shut because she was probably drugged out of her mind and didn’t know what was going on. John Phillips was a freak, plain and simple.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
I believe it’s true. It was brutally honest. Otherwise that’s the best damn Best Actress Emmy for a dramatic performance I’ve seen on television. She had me riveted to every word, tears, and shakiness at all the right moments. Even that moment meeting with Valerie Bertinelli had me a little red eye. I’m seeing a trend this 24th Oprah season… Jerry Springer with class. Who would’ve thought. =)
September 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I have long known Mackenzie was conflicted now Iam.
September 24th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
[...] “Mackenzie has a lot of mental illness. She’s had a needle stuck up her arm for 35 years. She was arrested for heroin and coke just recently. She did Celebrity Rehab and now she writes a book. The whole thing is timed,” Michelle Phillips, 65, said in a quote published by Roger Friedman of Showbiz411.com. [...]
September 24th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
I saw Makenzie Phillips on TV this morning and she looked frightening. It must be horrible to be violated by anyone, I’m just not sure we can trust this woman to be telling the truth. I’m curious as to when we as a society decided that these trainwreck stories were worth our valuable time. In my opinion, Oprah made a bad choice on this one and Makenzie Phillips made a bad choice in not working this out in therapy. Mary Kennedy Eastham, Author, The Shadow of a Dog I Can’t Forget and the upcoming novel, Night Surfing
September 25th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Sally in Chicago…you got it backwards…if this is true, Mackenzie didn’t start the relationship – JOHN did. And to say that he “started a relationship” is waaaaaaaayyyyyyy too nice. He raped her first.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
michelle phillips sounds like the one with mental illness. she also disparaged millions of people suffering with drug addiction by classifying them all as “mentally ill.” lol… nice.
michelle phillips was a druggie in her day too… and had several illegitimate kids before marriage. which in the 60s was pretty shameful. and very, very slutty.
this “secret” it turns out, wasn’t so secret after all. i’m sure michelle knew about it a long time ago. other band members did, i’d find it hard to believe she never heard about it too. she’s worried because this could ruin any future royalties she might receive from the band. michelle hasn’t had an acting job in what? about 25+ years??? has she done ANYTHING since knot’s landing, for that matter?
michelle, you’re a piece of scum. happily, your children turned out far better than you.
good luck mackenzie. stay strong.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I’m sorry, who was Michelle Phillips again? How many steady gigs has she had since “Knots Landing?” The needle in Mackenzie’s arm and the empty bottles surrounding Michelle’s blowzy body by afternoon … what makes Michelle’s addictions superior to Mackenzie’s? One thing is clear: Mackenzie Phillips is both a better writer and a better marketer than poor Mary Kennedy Eastham.
September 25th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
“Oprah will do anything for ratings” – each of you who have left or will leave this comment is a loser. At this point in Oprah’s career ratings don’t matter. She continues her show because she can, not because she has to. Dont put her in the category of Ricki Lake, Jerry Springer or even Tyra. And whether Ms. Phillips’ allegations are true or not, the situation is utterly disturbing. In addition, it’s not Oprah’s job to determine whether her guests are telling the truth or not. What talk show host has ever done this????? She is an “interviewer”, and she gives her guests the opportunity to voice their opinons and sides of the story and lets her viewers and the public make their own assessment about the credibility of the guest.
September 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
She was 19 when this started? Sorry, that is old enough to not let this happen. She’s as disgusting as he is if this is true. The only reason she is telling this to the world is because she wants to make money from her book.
How does a 19 year old having a consensual sexual relationship with her dad help people who were truly molested by their dads when they were young girls? Big difference between a 19 year old and a young girl or even a young teen.
September 26th, 2009 at 12:01 am
[...] for 10 years stopping only when she found out she was pregnant, her step-mom, Michelle Phillips, claimed that she was lying. I spoke to Michelle this morning by phone; she has not read Mackenzie’s book, published today, [...]
September 26th, 2009 at 6:43 am
For all of those who do not believe MacKenzie I say, it must be nice to live in your comfortable bubble! No one is going to humiliate & embarass themselves with that kind of story unless it is true. She has had no mental illness, she is an addict. Being molested by a relative is difficult to tell anyone & I think the reason she took it back after telling Michelle is that she wanted to see her reaction. She took it back because she didn’t like the reaction. No one wants to believe something like that. How do you think MacKenzie felt??? Where was her support system? Like Sharon said, “Just because it seems like something you can’t believe doesn’t make it so..” To all of you non-believers I am pretty sure not one of you has been incestuously molested! Denny Doherty (one of the band members)said he was aware of this & he was there!! Don’t be so quick to judge!
September 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
[...] for 10 years stopping only when she found out she was pregnant, her step-mom, Michelle Phillips, claimed that she was lying. I spoke to Michelle this morning by phone; she has not read Mackenzie’s book, published [...]
September 26th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Well I do believe Makenzie. I just think her stepmom is in Complete denial. Now should she had kept it private? Maybe. But still she needed to let it out somehow and maybe this is how she could release all her pain.Shame on Michelle for trying to cover this up and opretend she is lying about it. people you have no idea the things you would do, when you are on Drugs! you do things you would never even think of when on heroin..So yes I believe makenzie.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Sad sad when your entire lifes work is to write books and do interviews and shows about basically how screwed up you were.
I don’t believe it for a second
She has no money and no income and is a strung out drug addict who needed a buck and as we all know drug addicts will say or do anything for their next fix
September 27th, 2009 at 9:34 am
[...] Mammas and Pappas singer and mother of Chynna Phillips, Michelle Phillips, has called bullshit. The Hollywood Reporter says: Michelle Phillips, the ex-wife of the late John Phillips, says her stepdaughter Mackenzie [...]
September 27th, 2009 at 10:47 am
I find stories like this disturbing when the person is dead and cannot refute or admit the charges. It’s just too bad she didn’t think of writing this book while her father was alive.
September 27th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I believe MacKenzie. Her father shot her up with drugs, a claim nobody in her family disputes. So why is it so hard to believe that he would sexually violate her? He wanted her addicted and dependent on him so that he could use her. He was scum, and Michelle is covering up for him.
Where is MacKenzie’s mother? No statement from her….
September 27th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Chynna and Bijou believe MacKenzie. Michelle Phillips has had 5 husbands hasn’t she. Who’s calling who off?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Reading all these comments it’s easy to see how lynch mobs get started. Yes it’s possible that a drugged out parent initiated sex with his own daughter. It’s also possible that a drugged out daughter accused an innocent father of sexual abuse. I say we hold with the concept that people are innocent until proven guilty.
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Michelle, Shame on you. You blame the drugs John gave to Mac for her making these claims of sexual violation. Him giving her the drugs was a violation in and of itself! You say John was not capable of raping a daughter of his for years and years. A guy who does drugs with his kid is capable of all the other forms of abuse. A person in your position who doubts the abuse is an abuser as well. Mackenzie was screwed in almost all ways by John. Face it. And shut up, would you please?
October 5th, 2009 at 2:32 am
No kidding she’s lying. She is a LOSER. She is an ex drug addict herself. Lord knows the type of hallucinations she brought upon HERSELF all these years.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Mackenzie says she’s admitting the sex with her dad to help others in same situations. Who are those others? First of all, she was molested/raped the FIRST time by her dad (she at the time being in a drug-induced state so that she wasn’t even aware of it happening).
But then it continued to happen and it was “consensual” to use her own words. Is that molestation? Is that abuse? Yes, if you’re under a certain age. But at 20 years old and you’re no virgin, as she admits herself, and your father initiates sex with you the first time and you then decide to continue having sex with him? There was no force involved, as she said. It was her and only her choice to engage in the consensual sex. She’s not an incest survivor. She’s not a little girl or boy who was forced to have sex with a parent. She was an adult, an adult who was having sex with other men as well at the same time as she was agreeing to have sex with her dad. So she was betraying her husband too at the same time by cheating on him with her dad.
What good did she do with the revelation, even if it is true? Well, what she did succeed in doing is making $$$. If there were no $$$ to be gained, she would never have mentioned it.
And if it isn’t true (which no one will ever really know except the two of them) then she’s really sick.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:35 am
There is just no way that anyone will ever know if this is true or not.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
As a woman I certainly would hope that she is not lying about being raped and yes I have a friend that was raped by her stepfather and it took 4 years for her mom to leave him. The sad truth is women are big deniers from weight gain to men to a lot of things. Correction: SOME not ALL!!
December 4th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Wow a lot of idiots on here. First of all none of you know what your talking about, not saying that i do either. But dont judge someone you dont even know and are definitly never going to know by calling them a liar when you really dont know the facts. No one will ever know the facts on this except mack. But if i was going to listen to a thrid party it’s not going to be any of you people who dont have any idea if this happened to her or not it would probably be her sister who went agianst the rest of her family to stand up for what she believes is true. Of course Michelle would like to hide this and stay in denial this could ruin her and her family members reputation completly & in my opinon this did happen and Michelle believes it just as much as a lot of people i do understand Michelle’s worry but she needs to suck up her ego forget about her pretty much already ruined career and stop making mack look like an mental person who dosnt even know what happened to herself. I myself have abused a lot of drugs and yes they do mess up your memory and a lot of things but trust me dosnt matter how fucked up you ever get your going to remember that you and your father had a sexual relationship. She is not blaming her father or calling him a bad person everyone who reads this book should understand that she was just as much a part of this as he was. One thing that is definite bull shit is when she is saying that Mack is jelous of her siblings beacuse they did something with their lives and she just became a drug addict yes in her books it does say that Jeffery, Tam, and Bijou all had drug abuse problems
December 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Any Women who would be willing to have sex with there father for over 15years into there adulthood is sick.Lock her up!! Lock up Oprah for that matter. Why do the Rich “Every time capitalize” on The dead?? Why wait?? It’s Crap!! We don’t need it!! Oprah- You should be ashamed of yourself, for putting on such a scumbag guest, and then putting on Eddie Van Halen’s ex wife. Who by the way looks great. Not Fat, Like YOU!!
December 26th, 2009 at 6:04 am
She must be sick. Any girl to have sexual intercourse with her own father needs to have her head examined.
December 29th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
I am a child survivor of incest myself – no way did I allow my father to touch me once I could fight back. I don’t believe this. My father was a violent SOB but I fought back and I don’t believe a grown woman would allow this to happen. I know how this feels, the shame, the embarrassment, the total despair. I love my father but the sight of him still makes me physically ill 40 years after the fact. If she can participate in this act as a consenting adult she is every bit as ill as her father, actually more so.
January 1st, 2010 at 2:00 am
Why OH Why.
Life is tough enough without a father making it even tougher & to blur the line between love and lust is just ludicrous! Who am I to judge when I don’t have the same scenarios happen to me? Who are we to judge when life is good all around? Have we learnt not to empathise? All but 1 word stands between us and Laura / “Mack” and that is honesty. This book describes in virginistic honesty the life that was seen through her eye’s. I take my hat, hy heart , my soul and give it to you Mack. You are without a doubt a true Soldier. Keep doing the same:- Speak up for what you beleive in because it WILL make a change!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:15 am
How sad is all this?First off God Bless Mackenzie for getting to the root of the driving force behind her drug addiction,which is a disease.In her case passed on by generation to generation.Then you add the unstability ,uncertainty,craving love and approval into the mix,hence produces self distructive behavoir.In my opinion she was not ready to face that dragon head on with her father while he was alive,that would have been to painful,his death was the begining of her freedom,healing,and hardest of all admittence to her roll that she owns in all of this.Which would explain her downward spiral of drug use after his death.It seems she spent her life so desperatly wanting love and approval that she never received from her dad that in her drug fuled mind participaiting in his behavior as sick as it may have been was love to her.Unless you walk in her shoes we will never fully understand it.However I believe she is telling the truth you see it in her eyes and her face.Her living in denial step mom is playing the cover up game because then she would have to look at her self and the roll she played in this tangled web.I dont believe she is jealous of her sibling either,nor their success,I belive she loves and holds them dear to her heart.Thank God (irony) Chyinna Michelles daughter went to bat for her.Support is very important for healing.What we really have here is classic textbook exsposed family that wants to keep the dirt under the rug.Her courage to exspose her life is commendable,this is her story though it may effect other lives she has the right to tell it.And for the Oprah bashing club!Get a clew!!!!!!its Oprah!!She dont need any help to get ratings!!Allowing people to tell their life story and share with the world so others can be helped is what she does….which by the way is AWESOME!!!If one person watching that day was helped and lived a parallel life (and they are out there)God smiled!!!!!!Kudos to Mack, Oprah,and the people who support them!!!