By: Roger Friedman // Friday September 4, 2009
Michael Jackson can now spin in his own grave.
The first speaker at the travesty-like funeral he got last night was Leonard Rowe, the ex-con, self-proclaimed concert promoter who serves as lackey to Joseph Jackson and instigator of lawsuits against the singer.
The service, at Forest Lawn Glendale, was sparsely attended. Jackson would be pleased to have seen Macaulay Culkin and Elizabeth Taylor in the small seating area. Lisa Marie Presley reportedly was a guest. Jackson’s second wife, Debbie Rowe did the classy thing and stayed away. Other guests included Clifton Davis, who wrote the Jackson 5 hit, “Never Can Say Goodbye,” and Suzanne de Passe.
September 4th, 2009 at 4:28 am
Sparsely attended? All seats were filled, which seemed to me as though everyone who was expected to attend did so.
Now if you mean that only a small number of people were invited, then you are correct. But your choice of words indicate otherwise.
September 4th, 2009 at 4:33 am
Travesty? Sparsely attended? Someone sounds upset over not getting an invite. Michael Jackson is finally dead and buried Roger. Now you and Diane Dimond and her buddy Maureen Orth will have to find someone else to obsess over. Have a nice life.
September 4th, 2009 at 4:50 am
Leonard Rowe has been Michael’s friend for more than 30 years before all the vultures and hangers-on. He kept Leonard in his life. Just because they allegedly may have severed their latest business tie has nothing to do with their friendship. Real friendship is not based on business but relationship, which Michael and Rowe had for many years.
In the end these are the relationships that matter. The ones who see you as you are outside of the media glare and know the real you. Michael was the kind of man that knew that. I think most adults know that too.
As an outsider I think it’s rude of you to be so sarcastic when you never knew Michael, and in fact hated him and villified him every chance you got.
September 4th, 2009 at 4:52 am
Debbie Rowe, classy? I am sure you are making the joke of the day.
I know she’s your buddy, but seriously, who in their right mind would see Debbie as classy? LOL
September 4th, 2009 at 5:19 am
Just what people before me said: this report seems a bit biased. Debbie is the classy one? Right. And the funeral sparsely attended? Well, 200 people were invited and I didn’t see empty seats. I have just read (I’m not sure if it’s true though) that Debbie was not invited, so maybe that’s why the funeral was a “travesty”, according to Roger.
September 4th, 2009 at 5:20 am
Where was Miss Ross? I knew Liza was not going to send because she was on TMZ blasting “that Jackson family”. Lawd, that was cold. Qunicy Jones was talking reckless on print and on ET (I saw) about it all being about money and MJ has some major problems, yada, yada, yada…but I see he attended at least the dinner. Glad he went though. Maybe those that didn’t attend preferred to be private. I’m not sure why this was not unannounced and actually private. Maybe they need this to generate interest in their “reality show”. I hope not.
September 4th, 2009 at 5:21 am
Why was everyone kept waiting in the heat, including Michael, couldn’t keep track of all the limos?
The children looked much different than at Staples Center, of course, last goodbyes will do that to you.
I don’t know how well you know Leonard Rowe but he made a terrible impression on Larry King and obviously was lying in his teeth.
I would adopt Blanket in a heartbeat if I could.. another dream that won’t come true, does anyone out there wonder why this is not just another drug-induced death, it has some special significance, I think the word(rather old fashioned and not used much these days) is regret, I feel regret. MMH
September 4th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Can everyone please let Michael Jackson rest in peace.Give his family a chance to grieve and try to move on with their lives.Most of the people giving interviews and making comments didn’t even know Michael.Leave Michael alone.
September 4th, 2009 at 6:20 am
I’d like to know where was Diana Ross??If anyone should have been at MJ’s funeral it should have been her.I understand why she didn’t go to the Staples Center for the memorial but this was his funeral,he left her in his will and apparently thought of her as a second mother,she should have been there supporting his kids,whether she dislikes MJ’s father or family is irrelevant,this funeral was about Micheal not her.I sure hope she visits his burial place on her own to say good bye or I will never support this lady in anything she ever does in the future,just my opinion!
September 4th, 2009 at 7:00 am
It was very rude of the Jacksons to be that late, but I’m glad Michael has finally been layed to rest.
I too saw Leonard Rowe on Larry King and it really made me sick when I heard that he was going to speak at the funeral. Rowe and Joe seem to be joined at the hip and he also seems to be Katherine’s advisor as well. Katherine would do herself a favor if she would distance herself from her husband’s ex-con associates, but the Jackson family never have had much business sense and seem to be very comfortable with shady characters.
I did hear a report that it was not true that Debbie Rowe was invited to the funeral. The report said that she did ask they family if she could visit Michael’s body on Wednesday night but she wasn’t allowed and was heartbroken about it. Maybe Mr. Friedman can follow up and see if that’s true.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:10 am
I heard there is a lot of jealousy between Katherine and Diana Ross. If true, it probably didn’t sit well with Katherine that Michael named Ross as follow up guardian. I also got the impression that it came as a surprise to Ross that he did.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Funerals, and even weddings for the matter, hardly start on time. Plus, it was a good move to keep the prying helicopters away.
I have no opinion on Leonard Rowe, I really don’t care: however, at this point while I question Rowe, I also question Friedman. This is not the only article which has been biased against Michael and his family. However, this one in particular is outrageous! Sparsley attended? WTF? Was is sparsely attended because Debbie Rowe was not invited? I saw a gathering of 200 people, close family and friends and every seat was taken. Was Lisa Marie Presely less classy for attending? WORD TO FRIEDMAN: Michael loved Lisa Marie and did not love Debbie Rowe! At the end of the day, she was just a surrogate.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:17 am
The surroundings were gorgeous, beautiful selection of photo of Michael. The children putting the crown on top of the casket’s flowers was touching. Keeping the guests waiting in the heat for one & half hours… not so cool. The Range Rovers and Rolls Royces used for the event (again) were at the compound on time–early.
The worse part of the WHOLE thing– seeing the booms and film equipment knowing we will be seeing pieces of this throughout the family’s reality show… instead of just having either broadcast the whole thing or not at all.
I agree with Marymaude and Roger on the choice of Leonard Rowe– and to hear he was the first speaker– makes *me* want to roll in my not-yet-occupied-urn. Many are trying to draw the connection why Barry Bonds was there. Was he friends with Michael… or the family…or just a fan?
Sparsely attended–yes– when you consider 2/3 of the people who attended came in the 26-car procession from the Encino compound, some of which could have dressed a bit more appropriately for the King’s funeral.. imho. No doubt many were not immediate family, but maybe extended.
Others spotted there: Kenny Ortega, Randy Phillips, Travis Payne, the young men in the uniforms were Michael’s dancers from This is It, Rev. Al, Thomas Mesareau, Gladys Knight, Chris Tucker, and Pastor Lucios Smith. We know that Quincy Jones doesn’t do funerals– otherwise I’m sure he’d have been there.
The two I couldn’t understand– Corey Feldman and Brian Oxman. Ken Sunshine (Jackson PR), Lionel McBillions (Katherine’s atty, and former MJ atty), err McMillian–why were they there? If all his former atty’s were invited, was Mark Geragos there too?
It was sad to not see Deepak Chopra and his son Gotham there. They were friends for 20 years. Heard Debbie asked to say goodbye to Michael privately the night before and was denied. Sad–what is talking to him alone going to do?
Little Paris and her glasses are so cute. Blanket is adorable and Prince so grown up. I *loved* how Prince moved La Toya (and her hat) out of the seat next to Katherine. She should have been on the other side with Michael’s siblings anyway. Good for him!
September 4th, 2009 at 7:20 am
CaliMJFan,
The Jackson family is large, so I assume only a reasonable person would conclude that most of the seats would be taken up by family.
The family invited guest who were close and meant something to Michael. Just because Barry Bonds was there doesn’t mean they weren’t friends – as if you’re suppose to know everything about Michael’s life. You, Friedman and everyone else don’t know anything about the man other than what he allowed the public to see: so keep guessing.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:23 am
And it was reported by the LA Times, Quincy Jones DID attend. Thank you!
September 4th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Lucius*
Oh, and Berry Gordy was there too.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Just Guessing and Barb – someone said last night that Diana Ross was there– she came in the procession with the family.. but don’t know that to be a fact.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Ingrid: You are grossly misinformed about Leonard Rowe. He is Joe’s buddy, not Michael’s. He stole from one of Michael’s tours. R. Kelly just got a multimillion dollar judgment against Rowe for the same thing. He’s a two time felon. Pulease.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Thanks for that info Cali MJ Fan,I sure do hope she was there!Michael had so few he could trust and who were loyal to him,I was disappointed when I hadn’t heard if she showed up or not.
This was such a sad event!I feel so bad for MJ’s mom,my mother also had to bury a child at the age of 52,it was hard on all of us loosing a sister but it was the hardest on her to bury one of her children.My sister hurt her back many many years ago and also got hooked on pain killers,after years of doctors telling her she had arthritis in the spine and finding out later she actually had ruptured disks not arthritis.She got herself off pain meds just to turn around and get breast and bone cancer.My point is just because she got hooked on prescription meds didn’t make her a bad person any more than it did Michael.Some people on other sites seem to be blaming this all on Michael,I just hope he is at peace now and his Mom and family can finally have some closure.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Agree on the Corey Feldman. He trashed on MJ in the midst of the trial – when MJ’s very life depended upon the feelings and beliefs of others. And then he had the gall to do an imitation of his “friend” at the restaurant.
I hope you read this, Corey. Michael may have forgiven you. He did that often. The family may have forgiven you. But the fans have not. To us, you will forever be Judas Feldman, elevated to a high place within the ranks of the lowly – seated at the right hand of Martin Bashir.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:28 am
What a touching story Barb. *hugs to you* The natural order of life is not for a parent to bury a child. I’ve searched for confirmation of Diana Ross– she’s not appearing on any of the reports I’ve seen so far.
I can only wonder if Dr. Murray watched the event and what he thought during every moment. Klein too. Michael could not have continued his addiction if the doctors didn’t feed it. Michael, his children, family, friends and fans have paid the utlimate price for the doctors giving in.
BNS– I’m still rolling my eyes at Feldman– almost hurled my Cheerios when I saw the video of his imitation. Nicely said– elevated high to a rank of low. Don’t forget Diane Dimond on the left of Bashir.
I wonder if Branca and McClain were invited. I swear, every thing that happens opens up 50 new questions.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:33 am
I think Michael forgave a lot of people in his life which says a lot about his character, but nothing about theirs.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Have you ever had a positive thing to say about the Jackson’s or Michael Jackson in particular? No wonder he hated the media, you can’t even be kind after he has passed away. We all have our problems in this life, but most of us don’t have then exposed and debated on blogs and tv. I wish we could expose the reporters and writers for their problems. I’m sure at least half of them are on prescription drugs or booze hounds. They would have to be to live with themselves. Please leave this family and everyone else alone until you are ready to fess up to your own faults in a public forum.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:59 am
I am just glad that none of this matters to Michael anymore. And I’m so sorry his kids haven’t been able to heal properly because of everything going on so long.
I have to agree with Roger on some points — the leeches really came out of the woodwork for this. Joe, Leonard, Corey Feldman (who I last saw on TV a few years ago saying Michael introduced him to porn, deviant behavior) and others (don’t get me started) who spent years trashing MIchael publicly.
Michael may have forgiven a lot of people in his life but that doesn’t mean they didn’t play a role in his misery – and aren’t using him still.
At least Debbie — who is the only one who gave him the kids — which is all he ever really wanted — isn’t trying to use him for publicity.
I know a lot of people will disagree with me but that’s my view.
RIP Michael. I love you — we all do, really.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:39 am
“At least Debbie — who is the only one who gave him the kids — which is all he ever really wanted — isn’t trying to use him for publicity.”
Nikki– I completely agree with you on that! I think she really has been misjudged in the public.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:08 am
I, too, have great empathy for Debbie. Thank you Cali MJ Fan for writing.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Typical Wacko Jacko freakshow. Have the funeral 70 days late(!!!) and even then, the family can’t show up on time!! You only had two and a half months to get ready!
Having that Rowe guy speak first says a lot about what this freakish family thought about Jacko’s wishes.
God Bless Diana Ross if she had the class and good sense to avoid this circus sideshow of misfits and creeps.
September 4th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Enough Already; Get a heart!!!
How dare you or any of you condemn a family in mourning regardless of how you feel about them and their funeral arrangements and planning. Wether they use this footage for a reality show or not..it is their decision!!! Keep in mind, this show was planned and created for the family prior to MJ’s death. For those you chastizing a family for being late..truly shame on you! Reports are yes all the cars were there and all the family members were their including close friends..so yes everything and everyone was ready all except 4 minor issues; Katherine, Prince, Paris, and Blanket!! Katherine finally broke down can you blame her? My God she is a mother who lost her child, a child she adored and he adored her. Emotionally she knew this was final she would never see his face again! I lost my only sibling in 1997. My brother died trying to stop a robbery and protected the pregnant cashier.. They were both killed. My mother had already passed thank God cause that would had killed her. Me in my raw grief had to make the funeral arrangements.. My father was totally unable to get out of bed moreless identify the body, deal with lawyers, police, victims services, DA, etc. I lost my dad that day he was never the same again just like I would be if God forbid I was to lose one of my kids.
Do I agree or care who spoke first or if so and so was there and what they did?? NO, not at all! Please let this family try to go on. Michael dealt with all of this all of his life please tell me we have learned our lesson and are good people who can remember he was a son, a brother, a father, and a friend. All else just doesn’t matter. We owe him PEACE!
September 4th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
It doesn’t bother me that Leonard Rowe spoke. He is a family friend, no matter his faults. No one is ever just one thing.
I did hate seeing Randy Phillips there with his smirk. I am glad they didn’t invite that two-faced Frank Dileo.
But when all is said and done, it was not my relative that died. It was the Jacksons and it is only the Jacksons who had the right to invite and not invite anyone. As much as we the public and fans want to act like we know them, we don’t. All we know is what the media spoonfeeds us and the little glimpses the family provides themselves.
RIP King of Pop. We love you!!
September 4th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Corey Feldman has no class whatsoever. First, he should have had the decency NOT to attend after racking up all that cheap publicity about MJ during one of the trials. Secondly, he seems to forget that some of us who went thru the same re-hab as he, knows what happened when a certain other male and him were found out about the sexual liason between them. Corey came out ok the other guy got booted out……..yea, don’t let your kids near Corey, he his a bigger danger than MJ
September 4th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
These worshipping fans should get a life because, breaking news, HE’S DEAD! And, he was a freak show. Yes, he made great music until say 1988, but when was the last big record??? And, needless to say he was a pedophile who really didn’t get away with it because after the trial exposed him, the drugs took over and while the jury was bought off, his life was O.V.E.R. it just took four years to find the body and, predictably, with an IV drip in the dope addict’s arm. Pathetic, just like his family, pathethic.
September 4th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Well, didn’t take long for the news to break about the video. Point proven.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/04/michael-jackson-burial-party-tv-cameras/
(sorry Roger … I know how much you *love* this site)…lol
September 4th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
We can finally say “Goodbye” – geez – I loved Michael as much as the next person – until I couldn’t understand him anymore. I couldn’t understand this person that didn’t want Black children like his mother, sisters, nieces, brothers and cousins. Don’t matter if you’re black or white? Yes, it matters when you show Black women little respect. Debbie Rowe – God, help me not to say what I really want to say — I won’t offend the kids. Lisa Marie? Help me again. Rest in peace MJJ…don’t know *smh*
September 4th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
LOLOL! How fitting! PEDOPHILE and publicity ho John Mark Karr, false confessor to the murder of JonBenet Ramsey now is trying to get ink by defending dead PEDOPHILE Jacko yet again! When he was arrested after falsely confessing, he said he identified with Jacko! Now he’s saying it again. Like attracts like! Jacko is all yours Pedo Karr! http://leisussurra.blogspot.com/2009/08/090409.html
September 4th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Where were Ross and Liza and so many others? Maybe they didn’t really LIKE Michael the way it’s been portrayed, or they didn’t like the family….but it appears that Michael caused mixed reaction throughout his life. I didn’t know the man but he was complex. Did HE keep in touch with THEM? I mean Brooke Shields hadn’t seen him in 18 years, yet she was an invited speaker at the memorial. I just get the feeling that a lot of those “friends” did not know the altered Michael…the one they knew was 25 or 30 years old…not the 50 y.o. who had all kind of medical and mental ailments.
Why was the funeral late? Two theories: Katharine had to be convinced to go…she was in deep grief….or the Traffic in L.A. had to be cleared for the long processional.
As for Roger not being MJ’s friend: Roger has been on the spot reporting accurately for quite a while. And whenever he has to retract he will do it.
I read Roger, I trust Roger. He’s doing a good job. Now all of you wait for all the other vultures (besides the family) to come out with their books and merchandise.
September 4th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
the jacksons are DISGUSTING, PATHETIC LOSERS!!! They took 70 days to bury Michael and couldn’t even give him the respect to start his funeral on time. They can save all their bloody excuses. What’s worse?? They’ve milked Michael’s death for all it’s worth, and then went running to the estate to have them pay for it. If that wasn’t enough, they allowed this “private” occasion to be taped for a flippin reality show??? GMAFB!
Now I understand why some choose to stay.
God Bless Prince♥, Paris♥, and Blanket♥
September 4th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
R.I.P. MJ ♥
September 4th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
I noticed no blacks commented on this. How RICH was the IRONY of seeing “black” former record exec Suzanne DePasse with guest celebrity hair dresser Nick Chavez, IN HER BLEACHED BLONDE HAIR. At the funeral of a “black” man.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Roger, why are you ALWAYS SO NEGATIVE ABOUT ALL THINGS RELATED TO MICHAEL AND HIS BROTHERS INCLUDING THEIR FRIEND LEONARD ROWE, and yet i doubt that you REALLY know any of them. The only thing i ever read you speaking positively about is one of the business entities that have and continue to PROFIT OFF MICHAEL while he was alive and even in his death. Let’s see..hmmm..could it be that THEY pay you also? In all honesty, it’s NOBODY’S BUSINESS WHO THE JACKSON FAMILY CHOOSES TO HAVE SPEAK AT THEIR SON’S FUNERAL. Opertive word..THEIR SON. NOT MINE , OR YOURS OR ANY ONE ELSE’S I really can’t believe that you or any of those comenting here are pompous or self-rightous enough to even think your opinions count on this issue. Leonard Rowe in a business man who has fought the “status quo” in the industry for many years. Is this not America where all are equal and can do what they wish in any line of business? You all are vilifying Leonard Rowe, the same way you do Joe Jackson and the way the media did MIchael during his life. So what’s up Roger..are you all prejudiced or what? The only common denominator here is that they are all a minority. Does that justify it? I suggest that since Michael is gone, that you pursue another topic and another family and their friends to follow around and speak negatively about. Let’s see..what about Madonna, or Bruce Springsteen, or Billy Joel, or Paul McCartney? Not that any of them warrant your harassing them either.. or could it be that your SUPPORTERS in the industry wouldn’t allow you to be as negative towards them as you are encouraged to be against the Jackson Family, and you would face some unwanted consequences. Again i ask you , FIND ANOTHER TOPIC and get off this horse. Or better yet, put those “investigative reporter skills” of yours to good use, and focus on another topic facing us in this country that we need to find a resolution to. ENOUGH ALREADY WOITH SLAMMING THE JACKSON FAMILY AND LEONARD ROWE IN THEIR TIME OF GRIEF. Do you not know what it feels like to loose someone you really care about?
September 4th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
GIVE IT A REST PEOPLE. Get a little love in your hearts. It is absolutely none of anybody’s business what Michael’s family chooses to do for his funeral. And to those of you who question, Leonard Rowe was a friend of Michael’s, and Michael trusted him. You can;t just take everything at face value,..even lawsuits. There’s always another side. PLEASE LET THE FAMILY REST AND HEAL, AND PRAY FOR THEM. IF YOU CAN’T DO THAT, THEN PLEASE..KEEP IT TO YOUR SELF!!!
September 5th, 2009 at 3:30 am
Nick, why don’t you take your own advice and get a life??? The “worshipping fans” have a right to express their love and condolences for the man, whether you like it or not. As for you calling MJ and his family pathetic, well, if they’re “pathetic”, what does that ignorant, hate-filled drivel you just posted say about you? Yep, thought so.
September 5th, 2009 at 4:40 am
First for those who are bothered by what Roger says then why are you all here and why do you keep posting. Could it be because he is the only person who has gotten anything right from the moment MJ died? If you don’t like what he has to say the don’t read it but since I have seen most of you post many time here it means there’s a reason you keep returning.
I’m just thrilled that MJ has FINALLY been laid to rest (totally sick that he wasn’t a long time ago) that this horrid family and all their money grubbing ways will hopefully slink away into the deep dark black hole most of them belong in. ESP L.Rowe and Joe Jackson.
Also seems to me regardless of what anyone thinks of Debbie Rowe that she knew well enough that anything Joe and the family was connected to was going to be a joke. I’m also guessing that since she has not meet with the kids yet she might have thought it was best to stay away for the sake of the kids until she has had a chance to meet with them in private.
YES, it’s just disgusting to me that L. Rowe was the first speaker, it was the final slap in the face Joe could have given his son. Here’s a man who stole god knows how much from MJ, tried to sue MJ and has spoken about him in life and in death like a DOG. The letter that was posted on this site from MJ to L. Rowe said it all! Michael wanted nothing to do with that man. how should that change just cause he died??? I don’t get it!
Let them all just go away and leave MJ alone they all did enough damage to that poor boy that sadly lasted him a life time and is in my opinion what really killed him!!
September 5th, 2009 at 7:43 am
I always get amazed at posters who come in and post and call Michael Jackson names as if that can hurt him anymore he’s DEAD, says more about YOU being mentally retarded and posting on someone who you have so much hatred on. Roger writes about a variety of topics, why not post on those and quit showing the bigoted, vile, racist mindset you obviously are consumed with. This message is for Nick and Enough Already too bad you two aren’t dead and Michael is.
September 5th, 2009 at 7:47 am
@ Nick: F you.
@Tatiana: Grow up. Would you please get off that Black/White garbage. Michael didn’t ask Debbie to carry his kids because she was white. He asked her because she was a friend for 20 years whom he trusted. I’m a black woman and I felt MUCH respect from Michael.
@Sally in Chicago: It wasn’t “portrayed” that Diana Ross and Liza Minelli like Michael, they said it out their own mouths. Roger has had some accurate reports regarding this case but his report on Michael’s burial was strickly his opinion. He watched on CNN just like the rest of us. Using words like “Travesty” and “Sparsely” shows what his agenda is.
September 5th, 2009 at 8:38 am
lucykevin –
When a spirit as strong as Michael’s comes into the world, and when a heart and soul as kind as his brings so much love into the world, that spirit attracts just as much hate and negativity as it exudes love and compassion. Why? Because evil must always try to destroy good – and although it never truly wins – it tries. These people who come on the website to disparage a dead man are responding to the negative forces in their lives. They don’t even realize it and they cannot help it. They just respond to the evil that exists in mankind instead of working to respond to the good that exists in all men – even them.
Whenever I come across those kinds of people I think of the image of the archangel – the one that is stepping on the serpent – the one who kills the serpent with his sword. That angel is the Archangel MICHAEL.
September 5th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Seriously, Roger, Michael kept Leonard in his life also, not to mention all the other ex-cons and shady characters that he alone associated with (outside of his family).
Tatiana, loved your comment, couldn’t agree more.
I couldn’t understand this person that didn’t want Black children like his mother, sisters, nieces, brothers and cousins. Don’t matter if you’re black or white? Yes, it matters when you show Black women little respect. Debbie Rowe – God, help me not to say what I really want to say — I won’t offend the kids. Lisa Marie? Help me again.
Don’t understand that at all, he seriously thought that his white ‘kids’ are better than the ones he would have had himself (or even other black or mixed kids)? Sad. Just very sad.
September 5th, 2009 at 10:29 am
I never saw any mention of Rebbie, nor did I see her.
Was she there?
September 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Anna and tatianna;
You both are clueless. Michael dated ALL kinds of women. Any actual fan would know that! Please educate yourselfes before posting comments such as yours. Goggle it whatever you have to do. And since those kids ARE his they are half black!! Please don’t come back with “they are to white to be his crap ” either. I can speak since I am sitting with my blonde hair blues daughter now as I type and YES she’s 100% mine along with her white daddy and I am a “sister”, at least half I am biracial. MJ’s first dating experiences were black women. Again do your research! Your comments are racist in and of themselves.
September 5th, 2009 at 11:08 am
It would seem as if there is a plan to sell the film of the, “private funeral.” RJ upset about the helicopter overhead, after he specifically asked for a private funeral.
MJ did not have lily white hands. He hired questionable people, Leonard Rowe, Tohme, Tohme, Pelicano, Conrad Murray.
September 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Py, not only am I not clueless, I am also a big MJ fan (and always have been, unlike most of the people who are ‘mourning’ his death). And frankly, I don’t think he was really interested in any of the women, black and white that he dated. I think he just wanted to have kids when he finally got married. And yes, I also know what biracial kids look like, having a couple of them myself. And yes, one of mine is also blond, blue-eyed, straight/wavy haired. But here’s the thing, my other child is dark-eyed, dark, kinky/straight hair. I think at least one of the kids would have some black features and/or look like him! They MAY be mixed but I don’t think they’re his and that’s my opinion. The only possible biochild in my opinion is Blanket.
Also, I don’t consider those comments racist, think what you want.
September 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Anna;
Same as me! My second child a boy looks just like me (thank God) and my daughter is the spitting image if my hubby! I mean I have been called the nanny sitter adopted mother on up..no real resemblence besides long feet and hands same eye shape. Keep in mind Paris and Prince came from the same mother it’s obvious she has the dominant gene same as when my daughter was born my hubby as well as my “white half” were all dominant! Finally my “black half” mixed with the hubby and my son was more mixed! Also remember vitiligo has an affect on offspring as well and is passed down. You are right Michael just wanted kids and since be felt marriage was first and Lisa Marie didn’t last long enough…here comes Debbie.. A fan in love ready and willing to give him what ever he wanted and she did paycheck and all. I apologize and misinterpreted! Thank you for calling me put on it! Peace
September 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Why are you discussing Michael’s children, and their parentage no less, on the blog discussing Michael’s funeral? As a fan to fellow fans, really– that is reprehensible and you know should be off limits.
And honestly, those children you are discussing just lost their FATHER! That is **all** that **you** need to know.
We have chastized the media over and over for their intrusion into Michael’s life, and here you two ladies are discussing who Michael should and should not have dated, how he disrespected black women– yet in America, we are free to date whom we choose. White, black, purple, whatever. The same could be said about your choice of lovers (since you have it in the open) that you have disrepected black men by dating/marrying white men. The sword does cut both ways.
While it is interesting to learn the backgrounds of some of the other posters, can we save it for a more relavant topic, when posted, and get back to discussing Michael’s funeral?
Again, as a fan to other fans– MICHAEL’S children should be off limits to us and the media. We want them to grow up happy, safe, loved and knowing how much their FATHER loved them. And how much WE loved their FATHER!
(unruffles feathers) No offense intended, honestly. Peace out.
September 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Cali MJ fan!
Really! Then you of all of us should know when it comes to defending MJ and comments wether posted or not will be defended. I was not the individual who replied to the race or biological patents of the kids but will defend since I have personal first hand knowledage which in fact you don’t. Was this the correct thread to debate this NO but regardless it was addressed. In fact this topic obviously has come up prior and was responded to. As a fan yourself you should know better and have the common sense to realize I was responding to the individual above in more of a Michael like way..tolerant and caring. The comments already stated how we felt about the topic in question. Read carefully please!
September 5th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
We call for complete vindication of Michael Jackson by mainstream media. Michael Jackson was exonerated by a jury of his peers in 2005. Not good enough for his fans. For his children’s sake, mainstream media must become more responsible. We discuss how truth can compel mainstream media to publicly admit it wrongly accused Michael Jackson of despicable crimes. Many people still believe Michael Jackson was guilty of these crimes. People were influenced to believe the allegations were true by a biased mainstream media. Please join us. No links allowed here, so search at Yahoo Groups for “vindication better than tributes.”
September 5th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Py Says:
September 4th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
“Please let this family try to go on. Michael dealt with all of this all of his life please tell me we have learned our lesson and are good people who can remember he was a son, a brother, a father, and a friend. All else just doesn’t matter. We owe him PEACE!”
September 5th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
“you two ladies” … My apologies- correction, three ladies.
Again, there was no offense intended just frustration that the topic came from fans and on this topic, and not posts such as Nick’s above, which BNS so eliquently replied to.
Michael’s response, as it was so often, likely would have just been “that is garbage” as he smiled and changed the subject.
@Marnie,
Yes, I did see after I read this post today that Qunicy Jones did attend and even quite dashing. Still surprised since he has said in past interviews that he never attends funerals, as he has lost so many friends. Not trying to be a know-it-all, just added more to the sparse post of attendees. That’s all.
My take on Roger’s comment on the ’sparse attendence’ is most of those in attendance were family.
September 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Ladies, let’s all move on. We may have different opinions, but we all loved Mike. May he rest in peace and God bless his children, family and loved ones…
September 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Quincy Jones did not attend the services at Forest Lawn. However, he did attend the repast/wake in Pasadena that followed.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:11 am
I don’t see how MJ disrespected Black women. Raymone Bain was his publicist and then his general manager for a total of 7 years. Grace Rwaramba was with him for 17 years. These were quite possibly the most powerful people in his life for a long time. Strong, Black women both of them.
As for the children, we know that Debbie Rowe offered and that they were good friends. We don’t know if he was the biological source, but it’s certainly possible. If he wasn’t, we don’t know why. Regardless, I believed him when he said that he was colour blind. He always said that he would adopt lots of children of every colour and nationality. I just don’t think it mattered to him. And why should it? Inside, we are all the same.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
mjuls, did you see the footage of the late arrivals, before they cut off the feed? Quincy was clearly there in the first few rows to the left side. And to cal this funeral sparsely attended is ridiculous and transparent, Roger. Check your facts. There were 200 seats, 200 invites, and 200 attendees. How in the world is that sparsely attended? I guess you thought the Memorial was sparsely attended as well, I mean, why not hold it at Wembley Stadium, right? Give me a break.
September 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Thank you mjuls.
Just goes to show not all of the reports out there are correct (I had seen a picture and report he did attend). I wish the media would go back to journalistic integrity.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:01 am
There are photos of Quincy Jones at the service, so he DID attend! Do some research.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:04 am
@Cali MJ Fan,
The family invited those they WANTED to attend. By the time the Jackson’s appeared, 3/4 of the chairs were taken, the remainder were taken by the family – and it is a LARGE family. So, to say it was “sparsly” attended is not an accurate account, in fact it is grossly inaccurate, and I don’t care what you try to do to justify Roger’s comments. No other media outlet is reporting such nonsense.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
FYI, They started late because Mrs.Jackson got very emotional 15 minutes before it was time to depart for MJJ’s service. Mrs.Jackson refused to attend the service or allowed them to intere MJJ; the children became hysterical as well with all sisters, and some of brothers. It took an hour for Joe, rest brothers, family and friends to get Mrs.Jackson, Paris, Prince, Blanket, Janet, Rebbie, LaToya, Marlon, Tito, and Tito’s 3 sons in the car. This is why everyone look so sad and defeat when they finally arrived, family and friends say it was a very, very, bad emotional breakdown of the weight of his loss and the finality of finally placing him in a state of under rest. Apparently the Family has been takings turns visiting him and spending hours sitting at his side for the last 70 days -this included mother, father, brothers, sisters, and neices/nephews. As many individuals including Friedman are being so critical and hateful with your Words-this family has suffered a traumatic loss of the person in the Family that they all focused 100% of their attention to contrary to what folks like Gotham Chopra stated about the family and the brothers. Mrs.Jackson and MJJ were very close until his death (as well as the children), why he left her in charge of the children and their portion of the estate; and this will be seen on the A&E Documentary. FYI, For those of you who didn’t know Barry Bonds and Michael met when they were ten years old and maintain their friendship all these years quitely; it is reported from the family that both of them have provided each other great support as they were often thrust in the media spot light sometime in a positive manner but often in a negative manner and they both needed the physical, social, and psychological support both being from famous high profile family’s and personal lifestyle.
September 18th, 2009 at 4:35 am
Could it be any more obvious that this man was a child molester?
It is easy for people to be blinded by superstardom and immense talent. MJ definitely had both but this does not mean that we should look away from the facts and evidence. MJ was a child molester pure and simple. No doubt in my mind. Anybody that cannot plainly see this from all the evidence truly is blinded by the star machine that was MJ. Wake up people!
September 24th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Nancy Drew, I can prove Michael was not a child molester. If he were why would they not believe a “Cancer” child over him. Michael went to trial and jurors from a very conservative part of California ACQUITTED HIM. Michael was not guilty. He was involved in a witchhunt by those who hated him and there was a racist element involved as Tom Sneddon was linked to the KKK.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:16 am
to you “enough already” From the part of the world that I come from burying the dead is a celebration. We normally bury the person after a month. the whole family and friends and anyone who wants to be part of it attend. And its a 3 day affair. Friday is for the viewing, saturday for burial, sunday for memorial service, refreshments and meeting and getting in touch with everyone.
October 19th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
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October 23rd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
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